Republican: fascist, authoritarian, Mostly rich old white dudes being racist towards blacks and telling them how they know whats best for them. Their politicians wear red ties

Democrats: fascist, authoritarian, Mostly rich old white dudes being racist towards blacks and telling them how they know whats best for them. Their politicians wear blue ties

@freemo
The longer we keep a two party system the further we will keep this red v blue mentality. I wonder if I will ever see an independent sworn in before I die of climate change.

@Darkayne While the two party system isnt helping , and yea partly the cause I think people becoming polarized is such a deep rooted issue at this point im not sure if we will ever truely see sanity

@freemo

Democracy is by definition forcing the will of the majority onto the rest of the population. A.k.a. Authoritarianism.

Everyone that votes for party that has an agenda of "doing something" other than dismantling the gang of thieves, known as government, are Authoritarian Tyrant Worshipers.

It is useless semantics what to call it.

@Darkayne

@niclas

> Democracy is by definition forcing the will of the majority onto the rest of the population. A.k.a. Authoritarianism.

Except its literally not. The primary definition of democracy doesnt even use the word majority:

"a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections"

In fact while there are other secondary definitions that include majority, those definitions apply only when used more generally (as in not specific to the context of national governments)

In fact we only need to look at example to know what you said is false, The USA, the UK, and effectively every nation in the world, doesnt have a simple majority to win. In fact all these nations are designed to have some mechanism to ensure a simple majority, a tyranny of the majority, isnt possible.

@Darkayne

@freemo

You can't have "exercised by [the people] directly or indirectly through a system of representation" without in principle violate "freedom of any given individual", and to me that is "forcing the will"...

Remove the "majority" if you like, it is still Authoritarian, just a matter "how much".

@Darkayne

@niclas

> You can't have "exercised by [the people] directly or indirectly through a system of representation" without in principle violate "freedom of any given individual", and to me that is "forcing the will"...

You can, and we do. The electorial college is an example of that, it ensures that most disseperate cultures and their regions have some agreement on votes... it isnt purely majority based (you need to get close to a majority but can win even without one)... but also is fairly balanced so fringe ideas cant win either.

It is a prime example of democracy that is not a simple majority.

@Darkayne

@freemo

My thesis is "Democracy is Authoritarian", because it forces some people to do what other people think that they should do, and willing to use violence to achieve it.

@Darkayne

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@niclas

Yup, that sounds indistinguishable from Anarchy where you have no govt and mods rule...

@Darkayne

@freemo

Yes, voluntaryism is the only conclusion the question about "initiation of violence is wrong" and that no gang of people can ever get a right that each and everyone of us already have.

Unfortunately, most people don't know what anarchism is, mostly associate it with "chaos and mayhem" (plus some authoritarian communists claim the term for their ideology), but just about everyone are voluntaryists at heart, and need "schooling" to think otherwise.

@Darkayne

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