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Jesus fucking shit... a Palestinian speaking for Palestine gets canceled by playboy.
Obviously if she supported Hamas i might be ok with that. But her comments were in support of Palestine, not hamas, and she herself **is a Palestinian**...
For the record these are the comments she made that playboy directly mentioned were the reason for dropping her:
“If you can look at the situation in Palestine and not be on the side of Palestinians, then you are on the wrong side of apartheid and history will show that in time.”
“I can’t believe the Zionist apartheid regime is being brought down by guerrilla fighters in fake Gucci shirts — the biopics of these moments better reflect that.”
“I just wanna make sure there’s 4k footage of my people breaking down the walls of the open air prison they’ve been forced out of their homes and into so we have good options for the history books that write about how how they freed themselves from apartheid.”
This was playboys official statement in response as to why they canceled her:
“We are writing today to let you know of our decision to terminate Playboy’s relationship with Mia Khalifa, including deleting Mia’s Playboy channel on our creator platform,” the company wrote in a message to users (via Daily Mail). “Over the past few days, Mia has made disgusting and reprehensible comments celebrating Hamas’ attacks on Israel and the murder of innocent men, women and children. At Playboy, we encourage free expression and constructive political debate, but we have a zero tolerance policy for hate speech. We expect Mia to understand that her words and actions have consequences.”
#Israel #Palestine $Hamas #Playboy
Obviously if she supported Hamas i might be ok with that.
…she was literally cheering on #Hamas and asking them to release higher quality footage of their attacks on civilians.
That said…IDK man I don’t like punishing people for opinions, but supporting terrorism is pretty bad…Maybe I should file it under the same take I had when #ye got cut from all his business deals…it is what it is, and he should have done business with people who would stand by him no matter what he said. Which interestingly enough was #MiaKhalifa’s take too, once she got let go from another company.
> …she was literally cheering on #Hamas and asking them to release higher quality footage of their attacks on civilians.
No this was during the riot from palestinians, not the hamas attacks itself.
Remember first the citizens rose up and rioted. During the riot hamas placed bombs along the wall. The bombs went off and hamas and palestianians flooded into israel
The act of bombing the walls to their prison and escaping is perfectly ok to cheer on.. It would only be if sheered on the attacks of the hamas (which as far as I can tell she did not) that it wold be an issue.
@freemo Lol what?
Hold on. How much did you read about this situation? Where are you getting your information from?
Im getting my info largely from israeli news and videos as my israeli friends are sending it to me... Thats what they described and showed me. What part do you disagree with?
@freemo I disagree that she wasn’t talking about #Hamas, because she was.
When the situation started, the first thing she did on #X / #Twitter was root for #Palestine. Not the worst thing in the world to post, but the second thing she did was boost a tweet/xeet that downplayed the paragliding attack on the #EDM festival in #Israel. On #Instagram she also explicitly downplayed #Hamas as a group, calling them mere “resistance”. So when she talks later about “resistance”, it’s safe to say she’s not merely talking about responses to #Israel’s actions, but #Hamas’ provocations as well.
@realcaseyrollins I've never heard you say a single word to condemn anything Israel has done, despite them being an active part in genocide and war crimes every day for the last 80 years.
Should that server as a red flag to me? By your logic it should (it doesnt other than to indicate bias, your still cool thouhg :) )
@freemo I’m pretty sure that I’ve condemned what #Israel has done before, as I have never been a fan of their government. I’m not familiar with how they’ve treated the people of #Palestine in general, but I do know that they’re heavy-handed and decreasing democracy within the country, are authoritarian and to my knowledge oppress #LGBT people to some extent as well.
While I haven’t condemned much of what they’ve done following #Hamas’ attack against them, as I can understand why they’d do it and they have limited options when it comes to conquering the very grave and legitimate and immediate threat of #Hamas (although I am considering condemning their siege, and this morning noted that sieges are against the #GenevaConvention), I’ve also (softly, and made sure to say it’s just a theory since I have no evidence) repeatedly accused the state of allowing this attack to happen intentionally as a bid to either unify the nation around #BibiNetanyahu (which I have mentioned in direct parallel to how #GeorgeWBush got popular after the 9/11 attack, and pointed out this afternoon has happened as he got the major opposition party #NationalUnity to rally around him, who I presume either he or the state of #Israel has mistreated in their efforts to slowly snuff out the remaining lights of democracy in #Israel), or in order to justify more aggressive attacks against #Palestine, which I specifically called a “black mark” and something that, if true, they should be held accountable for once the war is over.
So there’s plenty of complain about when it comes to #Israel, even ignoring their land dispute with #Palestine. I admit that I am relatively ignorant and trying to learn more on my own, but even though I’d posit that #Israel is probably the best, most moral, most peaceful, and most democratic nation in the immediate region, they are still at the very least bad, if not awful, as a state, to the extent of which that no western society that values democracy and freedom should be supporting financially, at least without some very stringent conditions (which is something I have said since the violence happened), and I would advocate for the #USA pulling all support for #Israel entirely once the war is over and #Hamas is (hopefully) defeated.
All of that said, there is absolutely nothing that #Israel has done that justifies #Hamas’ escalations, at the very least, if not their attacks here.
> I’m pretty sure that I’ve condemned what #Israel has done before, as I have never been a fan of their government. I’m not familiar with how they’ve treated the people of #Palestine in general, but I do know that they’re heavy-handed and decreasing democracy within the country, are authoritarian and to my knowledge oppress #LGBT people to some extent as well.
This sounds like far more of a "downplay" than the post you said.. when the Israelis are using small children as human shields during attacks, and this and countless war crimes were official filed with the internation court, which they have refused to show for... then yea thats as much of a downplay as the description you just gave..
I get that its because, as you said, you havent read up on it.. but willful ignorance is as much of a bias as anything else. And Mia may just be as willfully ignorant as you as the other side.
Both of you, as people with bias, seem to be demonstrating that bias against the sides in equal yet opposite ways.
> While I haven’t condemned much of what they’ve done following #Hamas’ attack against them, as I can understand why they’d do it
Sure but then one can argue why were you condeming them right up until the hamas attack? Like they were commiting war crimes right uo until the hamas cranked it up to 11, and no one was saying anything... While it doesnt excuse the hamas the fact is when you commit war crimes and genocide on a people for 80 years you should expect them to become increasingly radicalized.
The hamas in all their brutality are the result of Israel in all its brutality, and vice versa, israel's brutality is the result of the hamas.. The only difference is that the palestinians lived there for 3000 years ... so ther eis that.
> I cannot speak to what I don’t know about. I’m not going to “downplay”, or condemn, #Israel using, for example, human shields, when I don’t know for sure that they have done that before.
This is kinda my point though... you seem to "know" all this (very valid) things about what the hamas did.. yet you selectively known nothing about the attorcities that israel has done... Both of these are quite visible and easy knowledge to have.
So my point is, having willful ignorance of one side and not the other still holds you accountable for your bias. You are in completer control of what you know, so you are entierly responsible for learning about one side in a debate and not the other... ignorance, when it is known and not resolves, is not an excuse IMO
Nothing person of course,, thats just the hard truth.
@freemo I certainly understand your opinion, but my life consists of a little bit more than studying things and learning what I want to know. Otherwise, I’d already know how to pick locks.
Nice!
Going back 3k years on a territory that’s been in dispute for 3k years shows just how retarded you are.
@d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2
Huh, I said the exact opposite of what your saying I said... I was saying it makes no sense to go back 3k years...
It’s exactly what you said.
@d9dba0e072bdb353dfb0020de159126af47e69e133ea91bbd48e8bede37320e2
right.. its not about who had it first, nor even about the 3k years... its about people invading a land who havent lived there in any of their recorded history, or even written history.. and invading people who have lived on that land for generations going back before recorded history.
The land being in dispute changes nothing for me. The people who hav ea right to the land are the people born there.. .. beyond the last generation or two it doesnt matter all that much.
This sounds like far more of a “downplay” than the post you said.. when the Israelis are using small children as human shields during attacks, and this and countless war crimes were official filed with the internation court, which they have refused to show for… then yea thats as much of a downplay as the description you just gave..
I cannot speak to what I don’t know about. I’m not going to “downplay”, or condemn, #Israel using, for example, human shields, when I don’t know for sure that they have done that before.
I get that its because, as you said, you havent read up on it.. but willful ignorance is as much of a bias as anything else. And Mia may just be as willfully ignorant as you as the other side.
I’m surprised that you would say that I’m willfully ignorant, honestly. I have explained many times that I’ve not had the time to do research on the subject, but have already began some light research work this week. And I am not sure that #MiaKhalifa is willfully ignorant, there’s no way that I’d be able to tell. I barely know anything about her, I didn’t know who she was until I saw her in an episode of #Ramy that my friend showed me when he lead me through a watchthrough of that show, and he mentioned that she was a porn star, and that made her appearance in the episode funny, or something. I never got it, but then again I didn’t grow up watching her videos either.