Wall Street Journal complains about workers using their sick days | Boing Boing
"Just to be clear: the idea that sick days somehow impose a financial burden of the company is a blatant lie of criminal proportions. It is a justification for wage theft — the most common and most costly form of burglary in America. Sick days are part of an employees' compensation package; therefore, sick days are just another form of money owed to the workers."
@knittingknots2 No, sick days are another form of US insanity when it comes to work culture. The idea that people should come to work when sick, out of fear that they might need those sick days later, is ridiculous. In normal countries you don't get "sick days", you get the "don't ever work sick" policy.
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What do you mean no sick days... we absolutely get sick days.
You are right americans tend to go to work to save their sickdays.. but thats largely because they would rather use sickdays on days they arent sick.
Me, My jobs have always given me unlimited sick days. I have literally never had a job that gave me a fixed number of sick days except when i worked int he EU...
@freemo @knittingknots2
> My jobs have always given me unlimited sick days.
That's exactly what I said.
Your original post was talking about how it is insanity that the US get fixes sickdays?
I presume your confused because my info says I live in the Netherlands... 1) I have a home int he USA too 2) All work ive ever done as an employee has been USA except for one job in the Netherlands (not counting consulting)
Interestingly that Netherlands job was the only one that actually had a fixed number of sick days, my USA jobs have never had fixed number of sick days.
Oddly enough in the netherlands you would even need a doctors note to take sick days.. in the USA I have never heard of anyone demanding a doctors note.
By the way to be clear I am not claiming my expiernce with sick days is typical. I was just asked about my personal expiernce and am answering.
I am saying most other people do have fixed sick days, even though i never have, int he USA. Its just that most people wont use them so they can use them later when they arent sick... or because they cant afford to not get paid, one of the two. Usually a bit of both.
@freemo @knittingknots2 And I do not trust your generalizations about what other employees do.
Well you get vacation days as a seperate alotment. And if you use your sickdays for vacation, and especially if you come in sick to do so, then I think its the company's business as your causing harm to your coworkers to do that.
@freemo@qoto.org @knittingknots2@mstdn.social @migmit@mstdn.social Wait, you don't get paid on your sick days?
@freemo @knittingknots2 @migmit if you get sick, you don't get paid? Short term? Is that standard in your country?
@freemo @knittingknots2 Dutch labor law pretty much makes fixed sick days illegal.
As was explained to me the number of sick days were fixed but if i had an actual injury that would cause me to need more then there is a process, like you wont loose your job.
But thats true of the USA too.. it is illegal to fire someone in the USA due to illness.
@freemo @migmit Lots of jobs give no paid sick leave, or limited sick days (I have had some of both, but no job with unlimited paid sick leave and I've seen people fired for being sick too often as well). It's still nobody's business whether they use them for a fever or a day's break if they have the leave, as long as they have them.
Every job I have ever had int he USA (which is almost all of them as an employee) had unlimited sick days AND my sick days were fully paid.
Depends ont he boss, and if you get paid for that time off... If you arent getting paid some bosses may truely be ok with any limit.
@freemo @knittingknots2 Really? How many sick days do you have left?