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I am just going to start referring to Palestinians by the more accurate term "natives".
@lonelyowl That would be less accurate than the argument I made... More like, these are the people who have been living there fore generations that go back to before there are any records of individual land ownership, in some cases dozens of generations recorded, and many more lost to time.
This is bad argument anyway, it explains nothing and mainly used for demogoguery. If you believe that ethnic cleansings are always bad, you simply don't need it.
Even in the case that the palestinian folks are the first generation to live in the territory, that still wouldn't excuse murder or deportation of them.
I assume we do care about "native" people in other countries not because a fact they're "native" somehow make them more valuable, but because we do care about people in general 🤷♀️
> This is bad argument anyway, it explains nothing and mainly used for demogoguery.
It explains quite a bit, the most important bit... that they have lived ont he land many generations. It literally explains that.
Now if you want to use it for demogoguery thats on you. But the fact is most people recognize that someone who has generationally owned and lived on a land has a right to be a citizen of that land.
> I assume we do care about "native" people in other countries not because a fact they're "native" somehow make them more valuable, but because we do care about people in general 🤷♀️
When you are displacing people off their land who has been there many generations absolutely has relevance. The reason we give special powers to native shere isnt "because we care about people" its specifically because their native and yes they get special privilages for having their land stolen from under them.
> It literally explains that.
Yes, probably. I just think it isn't important for finding an answer to the question "are ethnic cleansings bad?"
I personally don't see a difference between deporting a group that has been there for around 1000 generations and a group that has been there for the first generation. I don't see gradations of the "badness" of ethnic cleansings, except for their scale and corpse count.
@lonelyowl I am not suggesting either group be deported... its too late for that. but clearly the group whose land was stolen should have it given back. That can resemble a simple single state singel vote for everyone.
Right, I care that these are people whith generational ries right up to the modern day going back thousands of years.. The jews are int he wrong for starting that but as I said their there now and I would recognize anyone **born** on the land (or any land) as a citizen of that land.
