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Its almost like countries with unhealthy lifestyles like eating and exercise choices are going to spend more on healthcare and not live as long.... shocker.
@freemo @GossiTheDog @malwaretech Those kinds of cultural differences are what puts your country 15% or 25% away from the average. Not 300%. For that, you need those things plus unfettered price gouging.
Well I certainly wouldnt argue that price gouging isnt a factor.. but where int he world you getting those specific numbers?
One would expect if you are unhealthy you will not have the life expectancy of a healthier culture **at any level of spending**. But since people tend to be willing to spend huge amounts of money to get even a few extra days of life it would make sense that people who are hugely unhealthy will spend huge amounts of money to compensate.
You can **always** spend more on your health, and some will go to extremes, but there is diminishing returns at a certain point (which is why people can spend such insane amounts)
Take myself for example, I am spending 10x more for a prescription medication right now simply because its in shortage and im an off-label use so im the first to be dropped. In europe now amount of spending would get you the drug because it would be controlled.. here you have the option to spend money to get special off label compounding done but since your offlabel your off insurance too, so you have to pay a fortune. In europe it wouldnt be cheaper, it just wouldnt be an option.
@freemo @max_sang @GossiTheDog @malwaretech
"In europe [sic] now amount of spending would get you the drug because it would be controlled.. here you have the option to spend money to get special off label compounding"
That sounds like an American making assumptions about how things work in the EU without any actual knowledge. Of course you can get off-label usage of drugs in the EU! You can also buy private insurance if you want to.
That sounds like an American making assumptions about how things work in the EU without any actual knowledge.
Thats a weird thing to say when right in my bio I clearly point out I live in the Netherlands.
In fact if you read it you’d realize its quite the opposite, an American who moved to Europe and realized that their system was just as broken as America’s just in very different ways.
And to be clear we arent talking about a cost thing here, you literally cant get certain drugs for certain purposes at any cost or with any insurance. The drug and circumstances vary from country to country and drug to drug.
I have lived in most major countries around the world, I’ve come to know the healthcare of other countries quite well and been abused by nearly all of them in some way.
@freemo @max_sang @GossiTheDog @malwaretech
Shockingly </s> I don't check the bios of everyone I respond to.
I stand by my statement that you sound like someone unfamiliar. Your experience and mine varies greatly, clearly we lived in different countries. I'm certain there are specific examples you could give for off label uses of meds that you weren't able to get wherever you are, but as a blanket statement for the entirely of Europe, it's inaccurate.
I have lived in a great many countries in europe, the middle easy, and America. Yes it describes virtually all of Europe. The fact that it doesnt match your expiernce suggests you probably havent even been in that situation. Do you even take medication regularly, let alone have much expiernce being in and out of hospitals? How long did you live in the USA to be able to compare at all?
I'm guessing its just projection. My guess is your a realtively healthy person who has had relatively minimal special needs you ever needed from the healthcare system, and really have little or no expiernce dealing with major issues in the first place. Meanwhile Ive had major surgeries, injuries and needed quite a few medications across many countries, despite you trying to make it sound like the contrary.
@freemo @max_sang @GossiTheDog @malwaretech
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha 
HAA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha OMFG no.
Ok then if you havent lived in america it would seem you have no way to compare int he first place.
@freemo @max_sang @GossiTheDog @malwaretech
If you'd read my pinned post you'd know I was a Foreign Service Brat.
I've lived on every continent but Antarctica. Also I have a chronic autoimmune disorder.
IMO the US system is worse than anywhere else I've lived in the world. Your opinion differs.
As a foreign service brat you mean as a kid, or as someone serving in the military?
I am not claiming the USA is better or worse. Nothing about what I said made any claims about what place is better or worse than another.
@deirdrebeth
Or are you saying the opposite, that you too have lived in America and other countries for extended periods? Your comment wasnt specific. By all means id be happy to listen to your expiernce and what countries you've compared if so.
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