@knittingknots2 Great indicator and proof that most people are irresponsible with their spending and tend to rent places outside of their means.

This isnt a graphic showing rent is too high, its a graphic showing people are irresponsibly spending their money by signing onto rent deals they cant afford.

@freemo @knittingknots2 My brother in Christ, it’s like this because the U.S. does not have enough homes for the number of people who live in it. The problem is particularly acute in the areas where most of the jobs are. A cursory examination indicates that it’s a supply and demand problem, not people being irresponsible with their money.

cnn.com/2023/03/08/homes/housi

@MisuseCase

No, In fact there are more houses currently open for rent then there are homeless people in the USA. So we know for a fact the issue isnt that there arent enough homes.

@knittingknots2

@freemo @knittingknots2 No there are not “more houses for rent than there are homeless people in the USA.”

There are a lot of housing units that are long abandoned and falling apart and/or in places like Bumfuck Alabama that nobody wants to live in they are not “for rent.”

@MisuseCase

Right we arent talking about the places that arent for rent that are abandoned. I'm talking about actual homes up to code, more than enough for rent to cover all homeless people several times over. It isnt a quantity issue.

@knittingknots2

@freemo @knittingknots2 Yeah I know you are talking about those. There aren’t enough of those. Like, they don’t exist. Especially not where the jobs are.

You have a weird idea that’s a combination of this stupid leftist myth and a stupid right-wing personal responsibility myth.

@MisuseCase

You have no clue what my idea of the problem actually is, you didnt ask. But it isnt qty, yes they exist.

Now saying "they arent where the jobs are" that at least gets closer to an aspect of the problem. But that also is in line with what I said, it isnt a quantity issue.

@knittingknots2

@freemo @knittingknots2 Yes it is. I live in an area where we have a rent crisis and this is the biggest factor contributing to it.

And you think, what, housing is a fungible commodity where it doesn’t matter where the housing is? Of course it matters where it is. Can’t pay the rent if you don’t have money, which almost always means a job.

@MisuseCase

Which to my point, then you shouldnt be looking locally. You should be looking in areas where there is no local crisis. Showing it isnt a qty issue, you have options just not options that match what you want (something in a specific area).

@knittingknots2

@freemo @knittingknots2 Some people can work remotely but most people can’t. You mean someone should just move wherever where they might not be able to have a job to pay their rent with? That’s bananapants. Nobody does that. I’m pretty sure even you wouldn’t do that when making decisions about your life.

@freemo @knittingknots2 It’s also still a quantity issue as the CNN article said (and they’re not the only ones) there is an overall shortage of housing units NATIONWIDE. We do not have enough housing for all the households or people.

@MisuseCase

There are 357 million bedrooms in the USA and 323 million people... There is literally enough room for every single person to have their own bedroom. Since in reality we have 2 people to a bedroom in most cases we are talking about x2 more housing space than people...

Yea there are more than enough houses.

@knittingknots2

@freemo @knittingknots2 There are almost 335 million people in the United States, your count is off.

And now you are talking about bedrooms, not housing units. We weren’t talking about *bedrooms.*

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogr

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@MisuseCase

What? Well there is yourproblem... Why would you compare housing units, which are design to house whole families, to number of people? One person isnt living in a housing unit for 4 people.

You count **living space** one person should be rending one small room not a housing unit. If you are a family with multiple members then you might rent a whole home, at most.

@knittingknots2

@MisuseCase

Yup, the definition of "housing unit" is exactly as I described it. A unit for living such as a home meant to house an entire family **or** person. So entire homes count as 1 housing unit, even if they house 10 people (a family)... as I pointed out.

@knittingknots2

@freemo @knittingknots2 No. A housing unit may also be part of a building housing multiple people.

I don’t think you’re a productive person to talk to. You don’t read. You don’t think.

@MisuseCase

Of course it can. When did I say we were talking about independent physical structures? A home can be a condo for example.

And no i read, its you who arent reading what **I** said, and I agree, you arent a productive person to talk to.

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