It looks like my #studentloan payments just abruptly went up by $1,000/mo. again. So, I guess this will be three times I've had to re-apply for a IDR/SAVE plan with #MOHELA in the past 3 months.

@vwbusguy WTF ? are there fixed-interest loans ? I'm about to apply for one :(

@papa_robot It defaults back to a Standard Repayment if there's no other plan. MOHELA effectively just put me on the SAVE plan for about a month before sending a letter saying I am back on the default Standard Repayment but without saying why. Naturally, their website warns they are experience very high call volume right now.

@papa_robot I think it's genuinely hard for people who aren't dealing with student loans and PSLF to grasp just how incredibly broken this whole system is.

@vwbusguy @papa_robot I paid like 60 bucks per semester and I will pay like, 300 bucks to get my degree. I don't understand the US education system

@joel What does that have to do with america? You are literally paying a small fraction of what people pay in pretty much any country in the world, including most of europe.

@freemo @joel
i it called public education , when it is not treated as
a business. many countries have it

@papa_robot

Yea, like America. But again despite many countries having it, very few have it anywhere near the price you mentioned.

@joel

@freemo @joel
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-with-free-college

@papa_robot

Why did you just link me to a map related to something we arent discussing (free college offered specifically to international students) instead of a link to what we are discussing (public college that is cheap to everyone)?

@joel

@freemo @joel
not for everyone. even in india and mx, you have to either met the requirement or score high in the national exams

@papa_robot

Regardless your link doesnt address the discussion.. What does inexpensive public college have to do with the USA which has inexpensive public colleges as well? Why call out america as opposed to the many countries that do not have public colleges, like some of the ones in europe?

@joel

@freemo @joel
the "inexpensive" college in USA is around 200-300K

@papa_robot

What are you on about... not a single one of our public colleges are that expensive. You are thinking of private institutions, which again also exist in Europe and are just as expensive.

Public colleges are single digits and below here.

@joel

@freemo @joel

$194,040 a nonprofit private for 4 years

$85,480 4y in the cheapest public college (in state).

cheapest is my state $32,000 per year

@papa_robot

Absolutely false. Cheapest public/community college in the USA is Luna Community College, tuition is only $886.

@joel

@papa_robot

inb4: Before you try to move the goal post again and claim your limiting yourself to 4y colleges.. Well even there you are wrong. Cheapest 4 year college is only $1,640 total. California State University–Dominquez Hills

@joel