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I dont exactly disagree...
My issue isnt with no knock warrants directly (surely im against them in general) bur rather that cops have qualified immunity and can carry them out, along with some murder, and not get a murder charge.
Take away qualified immunity, everything else fixes itself.
@freemo @Murray_N @realcaseyrollins i wonder how many no-knocks get issued in those states where its now legal to shoot police on your property
Two questions.. 1) Which state is this... and 2) you know anyone willing to sell me a house there?
@freemo @Murray_N @realcaseyrollins there is a lot of weird shit in this thread but
> the dispatcher
the dispatcher might very well be misinformed as well. they just process requests from command and inform the field units. their job does not entail verifying the pedigree of orders beyond if they came from an official channel.
the person with the gun on the other hand is the one trained in use of force, firearms safety, etc. it doesn't matter WHERE they are because they are trained on the rules of engagement that are always true regardless of where he is.
> no-knocks
these are a product of the war on drugs, so are illigitimate by default.
this is to say nothing of the fact that they are intentionally scheduled at times to optimize disorientation of civilians, whom are then expected to act in a beyond professional capacity against trained executioners.
> the dispatcher
the dispatcher might very well be misinformed as well. they just process requests from command and inform the field units. their job does not entail verifying the pedigree of orders beyond if they came from an official channel.
the person with the gun on the other hand is the one trained in use of force, firearms safety, etc. it doesn't matter WHERE they are because they are trained on the rules of engagement that are always true regardless of where he is.
> no-knocks
these are a product of the war on drugs, so are illigitimate by default.
this is to say nothing of the fact that they are intentionally scheduled at times to optimize disorientation of civilians, whom are then expected to act in a beyond professional capacity against trained executioners.
@Murray_N @freemo @realcaseyrollins my official opinion on that matter is if they are going to act like goons, you can shoot them like goons. and the city has no right to say dick about it.
if they are going to come politely knock on the door and serve a warrant and be civil, then yeah. it's on you if you take that personally.
if they are going to come politely knock on the door and serve a warrant and be civil, then yeah. it's on you if you take that personally.
Yup, more or less points I brought up, and I agree (including the points I didnt make).
