We worry about providing Universal Basic Income because people might stop working, but here's a thought: maybe, just maybe, with a little financial security, people might actually pursue work they truly choose rather than work to just not die. Imagine that world for a moment.

@scottsantens

As someone who is strongly against UBI, and strongly supportive of welfare I can earnestly say people simply not working is not at all the reason I (or most people against UBI in my opinion) are against it.

The reason i am against it is because it causes people more harm than good. People who are in a position where they need assistance need to be given the tools to get out of their situation, and the help to get there needs to be conditional on this (and we should be spending the money that goes with that). Financial assistance should be conditional with mandatory job training or mental health therapy needed to help someone succeed, not just money.

In fact when there are underlying bad habits, as can often be the case, it is possible money can even make a persons condition worse and cause them to sleep farther into poverty.

@freemo @scottsantens The highest paid jobs require the least amount of work. Your position is demonstrably false.

@MasterMischief

> The highest paid jobs require the least amount of work

Yes, and requires the most upfront, unpaid work (aquiring the skills). Which is exactly th point. People who work smarter, not harder (which is what we want) invest in skills so they can make more money and do less worse. Yes this is the whole POINT of what I said.

> Your position is demonstrably false.

How is a fact you admit is a fact that is directly identical to my point proving I am demonstrably false? What?

@scottsantens