The Dutch perhaps spend more on video games yet we have a LOT less gun violence 🇺🇸

I wonder why... 🔫 ❌ 🇳🇱

@stux

Thats like saying "The dutch banned vaccines, therefore we have a lot fewer vaccine deaths, I wonder why"

I mean of course you do, that doesnt make it a win anymore than eliminating vaccines would be a win.

@freemo What...

Yes, bananas are wheels for computers! I see

@stux

Not sure how you are confused.. when you make something illegal that is used to save your life when someone is trying to kill you with a knife, it isnt a win that you eliminated gun deaths and replaced them with being killed by other means.

Much as when making vaccines illegal you effectively will eliminate all deaths via vaccine, but now replace those deaths with even more deaths from the virus itself.

Same thing, not sure why that concept would confuse you.

inb4 be sure if you use numbers you compare netherlands to itself both before and after a change. Any other comparison would be dishonest due to confounding.

@freemo @stux But do Dutch have negative effects though? I don't have impression they have bad crime rates.

Statistics also show that e.g. the US have more violent crime per capita so it doesn't look like guns help much.

@shuro

Indeed they do. With virtually every country if you compare their violent crime and homicide rates both before and after a gun ban the rates sky rocket for many years after and never return to normal.

So yes there are more people dying as a result of their gun laws and that can be seen across most nations that have had gun bans and inferred to be the same effect in the netherlands.

Most of the data for this i have is for other countroes like england, ireland, jamaica, but sadly limited data on the netherlands on hand.

@stux