On the off-chance you missed it, The richest man in the world, a dull-eyed cloistered neo-Nazi who believes in natalism and that he, as an elect denizen of the master races, has a duty to "breed" as much as possible, a man who purchased a social medium specifically to gatekeep public conversation, to support political candidates that specifically worked for a violent fascist overthrow of the United States, and to reinstate, validate and amplify the voices of fellow neo-Nazis previously banned from the medium for telling Jews randomly and routinely to "get in the oven," who aped, shared and blessed white supremacist "great replacement" theory that specifically prescribes ethnic cleansing as a means of sanitizing sacred "Western culture," and who fanned those voices, including that of a multicount-indicted slaver and sex trafficker and zealous advocate of the subjugation of women, to spark a wave of neo-Nazi riots across England wherein frothing white men tried to burn people in their sleep - that man publicly told Taylor Swift last night, via tweet, that he would deign to rape and impregnate her as some kind of dithering attempt to deter her from her endorsement of a non-fascist presidential candidate.
I share this because any fucking time these preening powerful reactionary "Alpha" white men tell you they are not weird-ass psychos, there is not an iota of evidence supporting their case.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/elon-musk-taylor-swift-child-1235099654/
Not remotely suggesting she can't deal with this shit on her own, but I would LOVE to see Travis Kelce have a candid "conversation" with this piece of shit.
I am obviously pretty critical of capitalism, its corporate media subsidiaries and the system of servility it seeks to impose upon the world, but I would think, even in that gross corrupt world, "Billionaire Proposes to Rape World's Biggest Popstar for Not Embracing Fascism" might be a bigger story that maybe had some kind of consequences.
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@GrimmReality What does the existance of a billionair have to do with capitalism. In socialism billionairs exist by design and far fewer of them, they just happen to be the people in charge. Stalin was one of the richest people in history and clearly wasnt part of a capitalism.
inb4: I am not saying all communism needs to have billionaires in theory. Just in practice all that have existed have more effectively pooled money into a few peoples hands than a capitalism ever could.
Yea half of what you said, the part i didnt comment on, i largely agree with though also find kt the least interesting part kf what to said.
@peter_ellis @freemo @GrimmReality @Urban_Hermit
The system doesn’t tolerate Musk’s comments. We are powerless to stop him other than boycotting every product with which he is involved (Tesla, SolarCity, Twitter, etc.). So to that extent, many of us do not.
What action do you specifically wish to stop that you feel we are powerless to stop?
@freemo @peter_ellis @GrimmReality @Urban_Hermit
I was responding to @peter_ellis.
What actions do I want to stop? None. He’s entitled to say any stupid thing that pops into his mind, as he often does. Where he owns a social media site, we are powerless to stop him there. I don’t go there. Haven’t for quite a long while. Thanks.
> I was responding to @peter_ellis.
I am aware, and tagged me to keep me in thr comversation, so here i am.
And yea he owns twitter, im not not sure what you are suggesting we are powerless to stop? Like twitter from existing? Him from posting? What ia it in an ideal world you want to stop specifically? Seems as you pointed out most of that is stopped by just not using twitter or blocking him on twitter. It seems far from powerless, nor do we need to block everything he owns. Just dont engage in the part you dont want to, problem solved. You can block himnon twitter and never ha e to hear him while still.buying a tesla.
@freemo the cold war ended 32 years ago. When people criticize capitalism, they are not automatically endorsing the Soviet Union, communism, socialism, Stalin, Lenin, Marx, or any other McCarthyist boogeyman. They are just criticizing the world we live in.
@jonoleth You are right generally people rarely mean what they say. I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt however and if you say your issue is with capitalism rather than the world in general i will believe that is what you meant.
@freemo I didn't mean to imply that capitalism is a metonym for the world at large, nor that that's what OP meant. I meant that criticism of capitalism, which the whole world now lives under, is not an endorsement of the other side of the false dichotomy imposed by a political conflict that ended 32 years ago.
Like claiming that criticism of Godzilla wrecking the city is a vote for King Kong wrecking the city.
@jonoleth I could have just as easily picked a more modern country. Stalin was just a better documented example than say north korea.
@freemo criticizing capitalism is not endorsing communism
No one said it was.
@freemo yeah, you did. Tired of this now.
@jonoleth Nope, I think I'd know what I said and thought. Never once did I think that.
@freemo @GrimmReality Exactly.
On the other end, in a plutocracy this is exactly what one should expect.
The "ism" usually are covers for the masses.
@freemo
Concentration of wealth has more to do with the autocratic mechanisms allowed to exist in government than it does the economic landscape of the society. That’s why Russia (under the Tsars and under Putin) and the USSR all suffer from an oligarch class and why socialism allows economic freedom and mobility in many European countries. Pre Reagan, the USA was a capitalist engine of economic equality, but that administration undermined the basic tenets separating wealth and government, leading to the implementation of Citizens United and the worst of income inequality.
My point being, any economic system can be abused if money is allowed to shape its policies
@GrimmReality
> Concentration of wealth has more to do with the autocratic mechanisms allowed to exist in government than it does the economic landscape of the society.
Right that was exactly my point, thank you.
@freemo @GrimmReality now take the Communist Manifesto and compare what defines there a communist country and all those "communist" countries in history. See if you can find one that is... not even 100% but 80% communist.
Ideologically pire governments do not and can not exists. All principles exist withi a network of nuanced ideas where some may be more dominante than others but jonone idea can or doea exist in isolation.
Juat as there is nonpurely capitalist coubtry there will never and can never be a ourely communist country.
Ao yea i agree, when we say communist what we mean is "communisn is a dominante, perhaps even central, ideology"
@freemo @GrimmReality the original post about Musk and Swift isn't anything to do with socialism, but about the current system tolerating Musk's outrageous and evil comments. I don't think the billionaire count in socialism, or even in capitalism, is particularly relevant.