The vast majority of people who claim to be “atheist” merely don’t realize that what they worship - be it rocks and minerals, or The Universe, or Climate Change, or Karl Marx - are religions in all but name. The most vocal atheists are the most fiercely religious zealots you will ever meet.
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I agree on the conclusion (atheists are religion), not so much on the why (the things they revere).
I would argue they are a faith based religion because atheism implies certainty or strong conviction towards the lack of a god. Since god is not falsifiable it requires the same amount of faith to claim he is real as it takes to claim he isnt. Therefore atheists are faith based. Only an agnostic, someone who makes no assertions about a god's existence, can truly claim a non-faith based opinion.
Most "atheists" satisfy the latter definition of being religious, but still claim to atheism because they don't generally follow a formal religious organization.
That said, some of the woke socialists and the climate cult come close to satisfying the religious follower definition as well.
> There's a distinction between following a formal Religion, and being religious. The latter is about conviction of faith and worshipping something larger than yourself. The former involves associating yourself with a formally defined group of people who organize around religious principles.
YEs agreed. Though the term "formal religion" would more appropriate be "organized religion" as you can beleive in a formal religion (like say Catholicism) but not be part of the organized religion (the church itself and its organization).. but yea, more or less agree.
> Most "atheists" satisfy the latter definition of being religious, but still claim to atheism because they don't generally follow a formal religious organization.
Well yea atheists are religious, not a member of an organized religion. Though one could argue atheism is "formal" in the sense that it has a strict interpritation everyone shares, it just isnt organized.
@freemo @ryan Nope, atheists are not participating or following any religious anythings. We simply say that, since no credible evidence has been presented for gods or goddesses, we don't worship or follow any. Very few atheists claim there is no god. If you have credible evidence for gods or goddesses, please present it. Thanks!
A more appropriate term would be faith based, than religion based. Atheists are a faith based position.
100% of atheists claim there is no god, if you are not making that claim you are not atheist by definition, that would make you agnostic (making no assertion about a god either way).
If you believe there is abpossibility, however small, god may he real then you are agnostic. If you believe god doesn't exist you are atheist.
That said definitions matter very little to me. Definitions aside i only would need to know, is there a possibility god exists or not, however low?
