In infosec.exchange/@ola/10981336 @ola made the case to change the conversation from
"I have nothing to hide" to
"I have something to protect"

A friend of mine had repeatedly said "I have nothing to hide" and me failing to change their mind with "You/Everyone *does* have something to hide".

Yesterday, they said it again but now I responded with
"But do you have something to protect?"
And their perspective changed *immediately*!
And instead of me bringing up examples, now they did 😎

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Nothing to hide (big topic + comments + great documentary) 

@FreePietje @ola

TLDR Excellent topic and think if we had a list it would make them think twice as all these terms are too general; privacy, data....

Nothing to hide (big topic + great documentary)

I will make a project on this - collecting points. For now... Part 1 below...

● Excellent topic and think if we had a more specific list it would make people think twice as all these terms are too general;

○ privacy, data <-----------So what!!!??...

...But change vocabulary and specifics and it's different as it's a specific ***threat*** to people...

●passwords \ access to files
●inside information (about your company plans shared outside)
●specific undeletable threats (comments maybe)

The audience you try to reach IS MOSLY PRIMiTIVE.
EVEN PROGRAMMERS who like cats and don't care to know about what banks do (no big names mentioned yet)
And maybe even you have blind spots so it's about asking how to make it clear and not dragging. (I've been doing this for terms like:
●Money, Banks <--------- Who cares!!!!!???
But I've found better ways and vocabulary (which I will do for this topic also) for example
●do you like people cheating you?
●can you do this maths (example later)
●unfairness

So 'attack' people nicely because they are in their artifical 'peaceful' life thinking all is ok brought by corporations and by mentioning what they understand or threatened it's easier. They are not infosec people you are talking to!

●Nothing to hide (great documentary)
□French audio = yewtu.be/watch?v=djbwzEIv7gE
□English audio = yewtu.be/watch?v=M3mQu9YQesk

COLLECTED COMMENTS / MODDED
♢I have the right to protect my public and private sphere.

♢shifting the conversation to data protection rather than just privacy
[? could be good for DP specifics but not only for DP]

♢*Dignity*. I don't have a lockable door on my bathroom because I'm doing something secret

♢vocabulary "hide" is also general / subjective. Also "hide" almost concedes that the government DOES NOT have a right to know what you're doing at all times. Or is like hiding from system... which it is!
Which I think is right in many cases but not all! So people will find it hard or conflicting to have 0 info on some people even in name or privacy (maybe because they are scared of OTHERS more than actual GOV and its FIRMS which ironically is who to be scared of (!) and is almost sharing with everyone and they future... but because it's behind their back then they won't see it and so 'CANT' RESPECT what you say about it because it's simply much harder to see than a dead body or stolen money.

♢"What I don't see does not hurting me"
People have to see it else have hard time being asked to imagine
(many actually have poor cognitive or imaginative skills unless they studied business as I have!. .. so without qualified people it's like talking to non-engineers about complex things.

♢My dad was convinced when I told him he has nothing to hide but he still wouldn't put a camera in the toilet. (Simple to see - could be hard even to say why not... other areas even harder though this seems best so far and less like 'conspiracy' and more real)

Ok more later.....

Cameras can be good example like in toilets.

●MY OTHER FAST NOTES
"what have you got to hide" arguments might usually be made by those people that don't see or feel the danger of Big Corporations running their life or doing business from their data / life.

Inside totalitarian / authoritative regimes (everyone) then I think we all DO have things to hide! (Because others tend to abuse them more than us doing anything wrong)
And as those regimes make everything possibly 'illegal' then this basically censors / distracts / punishes people for speaking out or even trying to improve things.

May revise this at any time - feel free to DM me also.

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