Threads might overrun the Fediverse with its own rules, its own culture and its own non-standard technology, simply by being the biggest project in the Fediverse and making itself the de-facto Fediverse standard by sheer numbers. Mastodon users are up in arms against it.

Mastodon itself has been doing all these very same things to the rest of the Fediverse ever since 2016. Largely the very same Mastodon users who are raging against Threads now are not only cheering on Mastodon forcing its ways and its non-standard stuff upon everything that isn't Mastodon, but demanding more of it.

Just for the record: Mastodon was not here first. At least Friendica, Hubzilla and Pleroma were, in this order. And Hubzilla even had ActivityPub before Mastodon.

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@jupiter_rowland while you're right about this, I am not 100% happy of Meta joining the Fediverse. Think of the volume of data they collect through and outside of their platforms. Think of all the scandals they've been through regarding allowing extremist groups to promote their agenda and manipulating the vote and the public opinion.

(Most of) Mastodon has no targeted ads or data harvesting,is pretty standard and, above all, is self-hostable. That means that if you see any such bad behavior or something like that on any server, you can join another server that doesn't have this, or spin your own and control it all. On Threads, you only have one - very toxic - server provider. That's it.

And also, most of the Mastodon users are already aware, to different degrees, of the existence of the Fediverse and what it means. For Threads users, this is just some alien concept that they don't understand - and probably never will. They never joined Threads with the Fediverse in mind at all. They joined simply because of Threads and Threads only.

If I were to choose only between Mastodon and Threads, I'd choose Mastodon all the time.

@Cătă

And also, most of the Mastodon users are already aware, to different degrees, of the existence of the Fediverse and what it means.

I don't deny that.

What I meant was: The vast majority of Mastodon users does not want Threads (est. 2023) to rule over and force its ways upon Mastodon (est. 2016).

But at the same time, some of these very self-same Mastodon users do want their beloved Mastodon (est. 2016) to rule over and force its ways upon Friendica (est. 2010), Hubzilla (est. 2015) etc. because they find it too disturbing what these other Fediverse projects do.

The exact same thing they don't want Threads to do unto Mastodon, they demand Mastodon do unto everything that isn't Mastodon.

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@Jupiter Rowland Do we really have serious research data about what the vast majority of Mastodon users want, or is that rather your impression from numerous threads discussing this?