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#Question #QOTO Light Promises / Delays without updates YES mean I'm "entitled"... ! 

Promises

(not for admin - I guess it's just for those that want to pick up point or not heard some of it + life generally power-based even if people are giving some "free" stuff but I want more power & similar human projects which probably this QOTO isn't or whatever... )

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So I am "entitled" to say something if someone in control of a server says repeatedly says they will do something but doesn't (even if they did many other things, just the repetition of guesstimates is at fault.

Maybe I am entitled to say something repeatedly if it's:

"In a few days..." then
"In a week..." then
"In a month..."

"Entitled" in that way is rightful if one wants to achieve something here (which again I realise isn't for the many here otherwise they'd jump on it too), Yes I got something free BUT I am paying / costs if say something they will do but don't do it. Get it ?
For Example: My friend can give me a washing machine free and repair it regularly but if promises to come fix it tomorrow and the next day but doesn't show it costs me - when constantly he doesn't show up and keeps promising to fix it and months go by without a word - that's bad,
then yes that costs people. It's not just money or free service.

Anyway it's been heard. I wanted to get that FREE MEANS I CAN DO WHATEVER doesn't always cut it... in other words more specifically:

💣 The paradigm that I'm not entitled to complain too much (or even constantly) because I don't pay, is false. Even those paying have people who give bad timescales constantly so it's no money assuredly!

Stick to your words more often and let down other less is the lesson. Maybe others don't care it's not updated for months on QOTO but 1 person might at least vocally and that's me!

This message is not for admin as I've given up / learned lessons.

Not even going to edit it much...
There will be duplication

YOU CAN END IT HERE AS IMPORTANT LESSON FROM FREESCHOOL IS DONE!

As seemingly nice as people are (and it's over with so not stirring up here) it just becomes unreliable a let down for those who want to actually do something here apart from 1-way posts mostly.... and misleading / empty taking what they say if it gets delayed more than a few times. Not everything but if it's important to you or me... I'd rather have more solid guesstimates and then a "it's not going to happen" message instead of chasing - so that's my answer to better practice - staying on top of what you do saying. I might say promise here but even in a light way saying things in power ultimately magnifies it.

I should have realised from beginning needing to keep peppering them.

Of course we don't see half of what they do but they could simply not say tomorrow and then another send message with new time or nothing.

The short answer is not taking admin's word for it now, OK done, Exit
Sad people in power are like that.

☑️ Even good guys who think it's their project and saying it sounds "entitled" or "rude" to persist in pointing to what they said simply isn't. Some tings still hasn't happened like an update publicly even though I asked before and the last time "if you ask me nicely". Latest one being enabling searching own posts (still not done "in a few days" 2 weeks and counting)

What's the point if people in control think it's ok to say things but not at least admit or follow it up as courteousy of the delay?

Need to improve on their own ways .

They said there were not away for week - no posts on timeline for a few weeks and they DIDN'T REPLY TO MY DM like it's ok"...

So it's ok to ignore your DM's as the only admin for weeks / only when I spam you? That's weak.

If you are not able for some time, at least announce it or say so.

☑️ Your fault in not managing / replying to DMs (we should expect that much)... and then getting flamed for not answering (public or private DM didn't work at the time so I am entitled or rather you earn it)... again I am "entitled" or your bad practces earn you that from lack of other means. Contacting mod's to say "hey he's not answering and not on his timeline for weeks" get a reply very similar to "I'm not his mother" which is poor, you guys are supposed to keep in touch or even update yourselves lol.

What do we have to vote you off or something lol.

People observing might only interpret me or any whining and moaning person without thinking *I tried* or I want to get on with doing things here... so to contact admin or think we don't have right to call slack isn't right - it's not as if it was our first message and only flaming them. What would you do with constant delay / flaky words / being ignored?

Not even updating their own users is I think is essential... These words for the next admin...

Asking people to need to go to a matrix server or github is not right just to get updates on a page or hashtag somehwere. It's almost like a gate "you have to do this to get updates" lol no how about you let us know Admin?

Anyway guess it's not my server and that's the crux of it. drum roll please

So for the observer mostly seeing people as "entitled" - this doesn't if you have people that want to be part of something... which isn't I guess, so that's part of it my side. The door is closed.

Seems stupid but without something happening it's very dry and not all QOTO's fault IT'S ALL SHIT / DRY OUT THERE beyond the "we give you for free so shut up and don't try building too much, we're not interested in the human building stuff ".

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