@kkarhan @Heidi Indeed, SSD storage is amazing for fast storage but not very cost effective for storing vast quantities of data that is not in need of lightning fast retrieval time. HDD's still have their place in the storage landscape and in certain scenario's they are considered to be more robust and more reliable than SSD's although in practice this is usually not really an issue.

@kkarhan @Heidi Also LTO still has its place for long term storage and archiving. Don't write those technologies off yet as they are still very much in use.

@alterelefant @Heidi I know - it's just that long-term they'll get more and more nieche-cased as #LTO isn't designed for constant random access because the lifetime durability is decreasing with every band pass...

@kkarhan @Heidi Perfect for archiving data that for instance needs to be stored for compliancy reasons. In case someone asks for it you have to be able to retrieve it within a reasonable timeframe. LTO is perfect for those cases.

@alterelefant @Heidi I know.

I've had to use #LTO-9 Tapers with #WORM media for #revision-proof #backups on financial records...

@kkarhan @Heidi Unless the capstan of the tape drive eats the tape it is a very high density and very reliable medium that is still very much in demand.

@alterelefant @Heidi again: Of you need to cram Petabytes of Data into a single bank vault box as #offline #backup and expect to handle the tape.maybe once a year, it's fine.

I just think that longterm, both #Tape and #HDDs eill be superseded by #Flash and I'm confident that with the massive enfattening of #Games ideas like the #NeoFloppy / #StiffyDiskDrive will gain demand.

@kkarhan @Heidi Ok, but those are still just concepts and not expected to come to market anywhere soon?

@alterelefant @Heidi As of now, we can see stuff like the #ExaDrive, a 100TB 3,5" SSD for #online - #archival storage.

As #Helium-filled #SMR-#HDD|s struggle to meet the demand for storage at an acceptable thermal & power envelope and price, #SSD|s will inevitable take over as not only the more robust media but also cheaper, more dense and easier to use.

As for the #NeoFloppy that thing could be made - I'm just not good enough layouting PCBs with the precision needed for #PCIe signalling...

Needless to say if constant write speed and lifetime in writes is secondary, then a stack of cheap #SATA-SSDs already beats #LTO-9 tapes unless you need to backup literal #Petabytes and need the fancy features like #WORM media.

That being said, it's inevitable that even WORM as a feature may be copied over.

In fact #ZFS can already offer many features of #LTFS, including read-only snapshots and thus append-only #archives.

Until there are #COTS solutions tho, LTO #Tape and other options will OFC remain dominant and relevant.

Still I'd happily see storage vendors take up the NeoFloppy and build something off it.

@kkarhan >a stack of cheap #SATA-SSDs already beats #LTO-9 tapes unless you need to backup literal #Petabytes and need the fancy features like #WORM media

Data retention is a fancy feature now? Sure, flash beats tape if you don't mind returning to blank SSDs after a couple of years in storage.

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@apicultor @alterelefant @Heidi Well, Flash does retain data quite good.

This ain't #RAM like in some #Capcom #Arcade Boards like the #CPS2...

Also OFC one should regularly examine and rotate backup media.

If you want to go hardball, you'd choose to #archive on #microfilm and put those rolls in argon-filled aluminium barrels in a bunker, Like #Germany did for it's most significant history until 1990.

Granted, there are multiple options re: #backup and rarely does one need superfast fast, near-zero latency and extemely high capacity backups.

OFC you get what you paid for and if you choose the cheapest SSD you can buy that isn't a #China #ScamDisk with manipulated TF cards in a RAID-0 enclosure, chances are stuff will work fine.

Proper handling and storage is key OFC but that also applies to #Tape.

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