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#UBI - Some questions - TLDR; 1) uncaring people and system again results in surely the same that we see now 2) same control and crunch method will surely happen with UBI as everything else we see (what will be different with UBI?) 

@ubi4me Hi
Just a questions to prep myself and catch up with folks, thanks:

So a threat is detailed below but not only the threat - just that the threat might be more than the benefits perhaps... and that we're dealing with the same old crusty cruel system - so that doesn't fix them and their not caring (whatever is given is taken back much more and still cruel / aiming for crushing profits).

So with that in mind...

What would people say to this kind of light argument about and cold ...

- If government (clearly uncaring cold 'system') just uses this to round everyone up and reduce the to near-0 (ok not zero to start but like all 'good' things a nice hook to open accounts but just like wages the UBI stays the same and compound inflation just goes up - that in itself is stealing / offsetting people's wages as it is right now when wages stay the same, so people are out of pocket).

With UBI or not keeping same while EVERYTHING else goes up is sort of useless with the same bad mentality and always those people in control heading for wrong direction in everything...then UBI as good or bad to start seems much the same for public at the hands of controlled crunch violence using the economy... (again)

The clamp of inflation and basic alone is not the other things but I hope to show uncaring people CANNOT be trusted and it's the self-given job of government to screw people / pay itself (not people- purely a chore to keep them alive with minimum spend as people slowly die / can't pay anything / glean the cream off tops only).

If people are not in the "business" of looking after people it's a disaster from start.

Thoughts please

TLDR; just a list of counter points to main 1) uncaring people and system again 2) same control and crunch method will surely happen.

#UBI - Some questions - TLDR; 1) uncaring people and system again results in surely the same that we see now 2) same control and crunch method will surely happen with UBI as everything else we see (what will be different with UBI?) 

@freeschool Hi there - thanks for putting so much thought into your question 🙂
Why don't you join us today at 16:00 UTC for our community get together to talk through them?
ubi4me.org/events/

As for the questions, I'll respond to your points tomorrow.

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