I'm opposed to separating T from LGBTQ.
But we should do it for things like therapy or such. Plenty of people might be good on LGB issues, but not know anything about Trans stuff. Software only gives these people "LGBTQ" as a topic.
@ebel see also, "a gay friendly bar" isn't necessarily safe for trans folks. These terms get thrown around a lot. An "LGBTQ" vendor selling Harry Potter merch. And so on. Not everyone gets to claim all the letters, but I'm not sure how to have those discussions sometimes.
@itsalark @ebel "not sure how to have those discussions sometimes" comment really got me thinking. On one hand we want to encourage critical thinking, personal growth and for that we need to be challenged; on the other hand having our beliefs challenged feels like being personally attacked. It can be a lose-lose situation specifically when the discussion happens online.
@sproid @itsalark @ebel I think the internet is perfect for talking about anything because it's from distance and has both parts of what Sproid said of feeling sometimes like we are being challenging AND being attacked - AND WE NEED THAT
In the healthy way we can manage personally this as a kind of listening circle team... and 1 to 1 / organised-random.
Challenging and Attacking are basically the more forward-thinking way and win for everyone which might feel lose-lose until we learn better together and even MAKE more places to chat and generally talk until we feel comfortable, almost anonymously too (why not).
This helps the real talking come out and not gated state places in it for the money to 'help' people...
#Jitsi is perfect for talking.
I recommend audio-only as it has enough humanity in that speaking / listening and practise to improve one or both sides)
See #Jitsi hashtag for places to chat.
And ask me if you want to chat about this!
I think it's something everyone / anyone can do from distance... and can help build trust publicly or have a place of feedback.
@sproid @itsalark @ebel
Yeah I agree and my approach with most people is to "filter out" the good people / keep the matching people more often (even though I think all can play a part) so even though talking is nearly non-existent, people can move on and simply try another person if they know they can... which means even with "1 in million chance" or "10 in a billion" we still might be able to get 10 and 1 or 2 trickling through constantly... but the way to filter in I think is the problem always (word of mouth / friends and family talking might be more real for people).
Not a perfect way or covering everyone but accepting enough to do with a few people and see if they are similar / matching / accepting in many ways. Else just say "thanks for the chat" and that's it.
I think a good enough system would help the human side as a way or web interface for #Jitsi to say "this is an open chat 25hours a day" to make it easier for people to talk and say "next!" / make other chat rooms from that...
I agree it's not just algorithms to blame and not easy - I think it's quite the same here on Mastodon too with even the best people chasing the tails of #privacy #tech etc - because as worthy as it is it's STILL not a lot of building of community and NOT PERSONAL -
e.g. #Mastodon could actively organise chats in Jitsi but doesn't and leaves people to their untrained state of theirself or think socialising is sending cat pictures on #Caturday... so it's a nice engine but not improving people by much when it could daily / month / yearly (at least!)
Wasted talents we are and not even working together as much!
Dveloping tech is different to Developing people and their character in communication - 2 different developments need to happen!)
We have too many lop-sided tech pro's that can do human stuff.
If developing human communication is not for tech people then that's what we have! (I think today that's true, great tech, #undeveloped / #under-developed people).
Hope I didn't skip any of your thoughts or points or sound like "this is the answer for everyone"...
But I am thinking...
❓ How to make #communication more fun? ❓
🧩 I think this is a puzzle (even if mostly for those that love talking already).
Any ideas how to make it more fun ? Perhaps paying people! :]
( Wait........ Maybe! )
@freeschool @itsalark @ebel I didn't know Jitsi was being used like that! Will look into it.
In my experience the Internet is a great place to learn many things, educate oneself, maybe challenge and be challenged. But, what most of the time ends up happening is that people don't take kindly to the replies that aren't 'preaching to the choir' responses. It doesn't have to be extreme positions, just dissenting opinions have triggered silenced or blocked instances. Effectively creating echo chambers where there's no algorithm to blame. It's just that hard to overcome tribalism.