@dave That's really cool. Terrible analogy to country borders tho.
@Hyolobrika @dave Ehh, many reasons. Their "borders" probably change every few years if not more rapidly. They're set through mutual agreement and not through the authority of an elite. (Unless maybe if it's the pack leaders that "decide" on them, I dunno.) They're not actually guarded or enforced by structures. And so on.
Generally most nature/animal analogies suck IMO when it comes to social/political questions because humans are just too different.
Generally most nature/animal analogies suck IMO when it comes to social/political questions because humans are just too different.
How European to not acknowldge social hierachy but still follow it.
He's talking about wolves, not humans
It's an intentional jab. But I don't know. Everyone in a country is complicit in its borders and overall structure. What is choice really?
At the scale for people, it is more like many species of ants. If an ant queen is moved by an ant keeper, the rest of the hive will follow to the new tank.
@jmw150 @Hyolobrika @dave
Germans can travel anywhere they want anyway, no borders for me.
Jokes aside I haven't said anything for or against country borders or their various levels of enforcement, I was just saying that I find the analogy to wolf pack borders bad. I'm a bit autistic about animal analogies in general because I think 99% of them are really bad and yet they're used so frequently.
Germans can travel anywhere they want anyway, no borders for me.
Jokes aside I haven't said anything for or against country borders or their various levels of enforcement, I was just saying that I find the analogy to wolf pack borders bad. I'm a bit autistic about animal analogies in general because I think 99% of them are really bad and yet they're used so frequently.
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Turing machines can simulate a universe of other machines. Humans are like Turing machines, they can simulate other animal social structures as needed.
I think of humaness as that universal grammar, which I can define formally, instead of intelligence, which sounds more like a magic wand of optimal behavoir. A lot of things are more optimal than human systems.
