now, was this chinese govt or us govt disguised as chinese govt ​:troll:

also yeah, yet another proof that foss is not inherently more secure than non-foss
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https://pony.social/users/cadey/statuses/112180191483099315

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>yet another proof that foss is not inherently more secure than non-foss

it isn't but the fact it was discovered and we know exact actors involved in this is something that only foss can have
@a1ba @teidesu Free Software is not proof of the absence of malice. Proprietary Software/Malware however is proof of its presence.

It's a better point to start from.

@lispi314 @a1ba @teidesu I’d normally agree, but at the same time I think there are plenty of reasons to want to be able to monetize your work, which becomes much more difficult with free software unless you rely on donations. I mean, look at the log4j fiasco , and you can easily see that FLOSS projects are underfunded. So if we can square that away, I’m 100% in agreement.

@johnabs @teidesu @a1ba Funding/monetization is not mutually exclusive with Free Software.

Ease of auditing and prevention of the creation of leverage usable maliciously against users *is* mutually exclusive with proprietary software though. The whole point of keeping it proprietary is to create such leverage.

@lispi314 @teidesu @a1ba I never said it was mutually exclusive. I said it was more difficult and an underfunding issue, not a lack of funding issue. Relying on donations isn’t a great practice to make a living in most cases, particularly for software.

If you have some scheme in mind, I’d love to hear it, but just because someone wants to monetize their work doesn’t mean they are intentionally being malicious. That’s where my disagreement was and is.

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