*points out that most 80s computer companies, such as the Amiga, were both closed source and vertically integrated, much like Apple was and continues to be, so you guys only hate Apple because they never changed*

people: :angy:

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@lore Except for the lack of editors and IDEs, most 80s computers were easier to program in. You were even encouraged to do so. The whole ecosystem (not just the computers themselves, but also books, courses or magazines) was based on giving users more than a passing knowledge of how their machine worked, both software, including assembly, and hardware.

Nowadays, something as trivial as installing an app from a different store is frowned upon by the manufacturers. Apple pioneered that.

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