I have always been a big supporter of but lately I have been second-guessing that and debating with myself if I might actually change my views to be against unions....

My thinking is simple.. I am a huge supporter of anti-trust laws. Essentially I dont think companies should be allowed to create coalitions with the intention of price-fixing the market. This makes sense to me, companies **must** compete or else they can become too powerful.

If i believe in that logic then I should, by similar logic, be against unions. Unions are effectively large groups of people getting together to carry out price-fixing of their labour.

@freemo Only makes (human... ) sense during a surplus of open position. Otherwise you have a race to the bottom - bad enough for some companies (e.g. think of critical infrastructure - water supply etc), but a bankrupt company does not necessarily imply major human suffering. But as a worker at one point you might not earn enough to sustain you/family/kids etc. Og course, you could think of "outsourcing" that to the state but then every citizen subsidies that specific industry sector. Better to let the sector pay, ergo minimum wages

@kst There are issues around poverty and people not making enough.. but those are problems that should be solved outside of the mechanics we discuss here.

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@freemo yep, that's the issue. Should it be solved by the industry sector or by society. At the end it does not matter who determines the minimum wage, it might just be more specific to do it at the industry level

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