@jared @lupyuen

Definitely sounds like a road to hell. No thank you.

@mousey @jared @lupyuen umm, all this project literally publishes is open datasets... There is no way of collecting user data. They are not building a new platform. They are not locking the data behind a paywall/subscription/login. It's just an open dataset.

@vfosnar @jared @lupyuen

really.. then why not just contribute with @openstreetmap ??

@mousey @jared @lupyuen @openstreetmap

Cuz the reason behind Overture is collecting multiple datasets that the corpos have into a single unified one. As stated on their website in the FAQ section: Overture is a data-centric map project, not a community of individual map editors.

To be clear I'm not a fan of big corpos etc. but you can't take all the data and throw it on a community project to sort it out or from their perpective trust it to maintain the same level of data quality.

The question for them isn't why not, it's what are the benifits for them when contributing to OSM. Remember, it's still abt money.

@vfosnar @jared @lupyuen @openstreetmap

I mean, i agree with you.. I was more thinking "contribute" in the sense that they *could* contribute to #OpenStreeMap in a meaningful way, taking the data, and committing resources to introducing to #OPM in a meaningful way..

but yeah, that's antithetical to surveillance capitalism masquerading as altruism. Sad it'd never happen.

=/

@mousey @vfosnar @jared @lupyuen Basically all the #Overture companies have been mapping in OSM, or using OSM, for years...

*(They're often famously bad at following the OSM legal attribution requirements, which is probably why you don't know about it…)*

@mousey @vfosnar @jared @lupyuen They tried. (For years) OSM wants to be something else from what the big cos want

Lots of great OSM comments on the OSM forum thread
https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/overturemaps-org-big-businesses-osmf-alternative/6760

@jared @lupyuen not including google is definitively an improvement on privacy