Anderson Cooper had on a former Israeli intel chief who said, "The noncombatant population in the Gaza strip is really a nonexistent term because all of the Gazans voted for Hamas, and...most of the population in the Gaza strip are Hamas."
Cooper didn't push back.
Again, #Hamas won an election with 44.5% of the vote 17 years ago, before around half of the population of #Gaza were born, and then seized complete power in a bloody civil war with Fatah.
#israel #media
@JoshuaHolland Joshua, this really is not the platform for a nuanced conversation on this issue. And, of course, the million children in Gaza do not deserve what this.
At some point we have to admit the people of Gaza have tolerated Hamas for 16 yrs. They are not without any agency. I’ve never lived with terrorist firing rockets from the roof of my apt bldg. I also know that I would not live in a building and allow that to happen. Yes, I would probably end up dead pretty fast.
@MiriShuli @JoshuaHolland could I ask for possible alternatives to living in a building with terrorists in Gaza? It's not that they can move out so easily. Even those who managed to do it are now accused of extremism for protesting peacefully in Berlin, London or New York.
@mapto @JoshuaHolland They voted Hamas into power in 2006. At no time have the 1.45 million adults who are not Hamas fighters appealed to the UN or any other nation to help them remove the terrorists org. At no time have those 1.45 million adults tried to stop rockets from being fired into Israel on a near daily basis over the last 16 years. There have been no protests anywhere over *Hamas* controlling Palestinian lives.
@MiriShuli @mapto @JoshuaHolland and as we all know, Hamas not only permitted, but almost encouraged protests against their regime. 🤔
@peterbrown @mapto @JoshuaHolland Peter, as an American I have spent a lifetime honoring the rebels who dumped the Tea in Boston Harbor. The Vietnam Protests were my pablum. Those killed at Kent State happened on my TV. The stand on the EuroMaidan is the first stance of modern Ukraine. The Orange Revolution. I could name many others. Pretending that 1.4 million Palestinian adults have absolutely no agency doesn’t work with me.
@MiriShuli @mapto @JoshuaHolland well in that case, that’s fair enough. Stick a 30 foot fence round them and put them in jail if they object.
After all, the 16 years of blockade is really all their fault.
@peterbrown @mapto @JoshuaHolland it looks like they should have had armed soldiers on every inch of that border wall, doesn’t it?
Or did the 1400 dead Jews never matter in the first place?
@MiriShuli @mapto @JoshuaHolland if you’re going to count the numbers dead, I think you’re on pretty thin ice.
@MiriShuli @peterbrown @JoshuaHolland only sinister politicians and short-sighted military service people could sustain that a popularly-supported terrorist organisation could be destroyed without removing the valid causes for its existence.
Settlers in the West Bank are committing crimes for decades with the illegal support of the state, the occupation of Gaza is illegal.
Historical evidence is clear for those who don't close their eyes, be it Northern Ireland, Sri Lanka or South Africa.
@mapto @peterbrown @JoshuaHolland just what us a valid cause for existence of a terror group like Hamas?
How about Bader-Meinhoff?
Al Queen?
ISIS?
Book Haram. Is it legit for them to kidnap teenage girls for their cause?
Thanks for showning your true antiSemtic colors. Blocked.
@MiriShuli @mapto @JoshuaHolland I can’t see anything at all anti-Semitic in his post. So maybe you should be blocking me as well.
There has been no mention of religion, no mention of Judaism - only the behaviour of two corrupt governments.
@mapto @MiriShuli @JoshuaHolland absolutely correct 👍🏼