The state of things:
“I must say, I’m not used to talking to a crowd that doesn’t really listen,” Kallas said bluntly a few minutes into her speech as attendees talked over her.

“But you know, we are liberals,” she quipped, “everybody is doing what they want to do.”

“But these are serious things that we are talking about here,” she stressed.
QT: https://masto.ai/@euractiv/112131908988102056