@Davidtoddmccarty 💯 the only way I can see is pushing for instant run off/ranked choice voting first at the municipal level, then the state. Additionally more people involved with the primary process.
Unfortunately this is a crazy heavy lift in my experience.
It’s hard not to just keep trudging along, fighting while feeling “we are screwed”

@voron I know what that feeling is, even if I don't want to admit it.
Long term, I suspect we will make it, but it's going to be rough and hard until the demographic changes and the dying-off of the old GOP base go along far enough.
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@Davidtoddmccarty @mathlover I don’t have much faith that demographic changes will save us in any way, unfortunately.

@voron Elaborate. I think I know where you are going with this, and I want to hear more. @Davidtoddmccarty

@mathlover @Davidtoddmccarty What I see happening is the GOP becoming the lunatic fringe scary party, while the Dem party welcomes “rational” conservatives and marginalizes liberals/progressives. The Dems seem to be headed towards a social liberal but extremely economically conservative/right wing party with a lock on power.
👆 will fix some of the scary stuff but not a lot of it, and will perpetuate economic misery

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That's possible, though given the views of Gen Z and my own generation of millennials and the increasingly stronger support for things like renewed antitrust pushes in the Democratic party, I would not rule out the possibility of progressives and liberals remaining relevant and/or even gaining relevance.

If the past 6 years have taught me anything, it's that the entire world can be upended by the smallest of things (such as a literally microscopic virus) and I find both comfort and terror in that fact that we cannot know the future with much certainty, especially as concerns people, politics and society

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@mathlover @voron @Davidtoddmccarty It'll be the same as it ever was. The Republican party will die out and then the liberal party will split. This has happened before (remember the Bull Moose party?), and it'll happen again. There will always be a (small l small c) liberal and conservative party, because people when making decisions are keyed to being liberal or conservative in their views on how to act given an uncertain future. I suspect that both the MUH GUNS and the LGBTQIAKDF crowd will be marginalized.

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As a person who is actually rather pro-2A (though not stupid about it): The NRA and the idiotic gun nuts can go DIAF, but I have no issue with people having guns for self-defense and/or hunting. Gun regulations should ideally be written by people who know something about guns (i.e, not Kathy Hochul and not most people in Congress, Dem or GOP).

As for the LGBTQ+ crowd: I'm *probably* asexual to be honest, and I have many, *many* people in my life who are gay, trans, or otherwise not cis het, so I would very much like them to still be at the table.

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@mathlover @voron @Davidtoddmccarty Yeah you wear a dress, but can you play the saxophone? Who you fuck as cultural identity is about as interesting as what tools (firearms) you have in your broom closet. Who fucking cares? My dad hoards guns and I don't understand that shit. You can 3d print a gun. You can import them across the two largest unsecured land borders in the country. No one's getting rid of your fucking guns. And no one cares if you date a dude. As soon as they make abortion illegal they'll open up the school of getting punched really hard in the womb taekwando studio.

People need to stop arguing over bullshit and start coming to the table and passing legislation about shit that matters. Like building bridges or education or food security or jobs for people.

Politics is so fucking frustrating because the shit that people care about is so fucking retarded. Who gives a shit about who shits in what bathroom. And yet, in Austin TX they had elections where this was the most important burning issue.

This happened.

I was there.

Until people stop acting like 5 year olds on meth with down syndrome when it comes to politics I officially do not fucking care. Get a guy with a blue shirt and a guy with a red shirt to sit down in a building that has too many greek columns and sign a piece of paper that makes everyone happier and then we'll fucking talk.

Fuck politics.

@Davidtoddmccarty @mathlover Sinema & now the dude that lied in New York indicate why I see dealing with corruption & money is a way to get more people a seat at the table who will work in a real way to make things better for marginalized group, rather than just obscuring the issue and damaging the cause, follow the money deal with systemic issues that stack the deck against those with means & that will also help support those social issues that put people at risk do both!

@mathlover @Davidtoddmccarty The future is impossible to predict & I hang on to a sliver of hope but it’s only a sliver.
It’s not that people don’t care about core economic & corruption issues it’s that they don’t vote based on them. They vote like anyone in crisis, putting out the fire they can see, rather than trying to fix the bad wiring in the house causing the fires.
Until we get a leader to step up and people to back that leader, traction will be next to impossible

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