I want to get into meditation to help reduce my stress levels. But the entire community around it is so annyoing:

- unprofessional: talking about all kinds of supernatural nonsense
- greedy: most meditation courses want you to pay ridiculous fees (while preaching that material possession doesn't make you happy)

Does anyone have good resources on #meditation #meditate?

I have tried the apps headspace, calm, 7mind, Love Meditation

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@Maltimore Late reply to your enquiry. If a book isn't too much of an expense, try: "The Mind Illuminated" by John Yates, or "Mindfulness in Plain English" by Henepola Gunaratana. I'm an atheist/engineer/rationalist and find both fairly woo-free. If you prefer online courses, try Shinzen Young's Unified Mindfulness. He is working with researchers to produce meditation courses amenable to scientific study.

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Wow thanks a lot!!
This is the third time that someone recommended "The mind illuminated" to me, I guess that's a solid choice then!
I'll also look into that course you mentioned 🤗

@mneme after some research, I'm not going to get "the mind illuminated". The author, John Yates, seems to be of the greedy kind: trying to extract as much money as possible from people. To attend a video stream of one of his lectures will cost you 120$. What?!

@Maltimore All I ever paid was £10 for the book, and I suspect the publishing system swalled much of that! Can't find the course you are referring to - I see some events on his website, but they look reasonably priced and many say fees are negotiable. I guess it's hard to know if he's unfairly enriching himself or charging those who can pay to fund those who can't. All I know is, I personally feel like I have had excellent value for money!

@Maltimore I hope you won't be discouraged though, and will find a way to learn you're happy with. It's very rewarding!

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