mzan @mzan@qoto.org

@unknow tutto vero, ma è anche vero che all'epoca Berlusconi dipingeva il PD come un partito nostalgico delle idee comuniste della Russia di Stalin, quando i problemi di nostalgia malriposta si è scoperto averceli invece la base giovanile della destra.

Inoltre FdI ha sempre negato di avere questi problemi, mentre ora si può affermare che l'acqua bolle a 100 gradi e alcuni giovani attivisti di FdI ci vorrebbero far bollire gli ebrei.

@hayley It was clear at first look, only observing the formatting, that this is a FEDIVERSE POST full of deep CONTENT! 😃

@fosskers

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@hayley usually you answer in this way for saving time and energy, filtering out cranks people, i.e. not-expert people committing common naive errors. But as any heuristic, it is not infallible and you can filter out valid criticism. It is a trade-off.

As you said, the real answer should be in showing the faults in the opposite assertions. Otherwise, it is not science but cargo-cult.

@freemo I'm happy you found the AI expert, and you are testing this new AI bot speaking about ultraditionalist-catholic-trans. 😃

@ovid only an ignorant and clueless person may consider important the capitalization of Lip/LISP/lisp name! All the world knows that Lisp syntax is case-insensitive! 🙂

@sj_zero true and interesting. But the real problem is that nowdays "uncontrolled" capitalism is causing too much problems, because we entered in a mass-extinction era, so we will loose all the benefit gained in the past.

So the assertions "Capitalism is the cause of all the world's problems" is not 100% correct, but it is more true than false.

We need to reform/improve capitalism and/or democracy rules.

@nando
I'm trying to switch from NixOS to GuixSD, mainly because in case of problems I prefer to debug Guile code, than Nix code. There are more tools for Guile than Nix, and it is more elegant.

Guix community has less package, and it is focused more on perfect bootstrapping. So, up to date, for example, it cannot support directly Java Gradle based projects. There are also problems with nodejs packages. Nix instead has no problems in taking shortcuts, and it has an impressive number of packages.

If something works in Guix, usually it works very well. In some cases, also better than Nix. I like it a lot.

@chrism

@schmittlauch
if you are physically harmful to other persons, you cannot stay in the same event with them, and there can be also police investigations. So, usually people with accusations are banned from the event, waiting for the trial or quick double-check from the organizers.

There can be also false allegations, and the sad part, it is that often there are no consequences for the false accusers. But this is another story...

But if you are a serial-killer, sending pull-requests from your prison, using a nick-name, then these PR should be reviewed only according the technical details.

If you buy a car, and you are polite, they do not check how you earned the money. In a software project, the currency (i.e. substance) is the code, and the form is how you interact in the community. All other aspects are hard to enforce, and there can be dangerous side-effects.

@chrism

@chrism

good points.

A rule must be clear, otherwise its application can be abused and it becomes a dangerous rule.

Moreover, you can ban in an effective way "sexism", "racism" and "fascism" from a community, specifying that these type of messages are not allowed in the communication channels. They are simply off-topic respect software development.

But it is dangerous if you declare to ban "sexist", "racist" and "fascist" people, because: there can be a "fascist" who is a good contributor and he is not violating the CoC during his interactions in the project; corrupt people can ban someone they don't like, only accusing him to be a "fascist".

French revolution had good ideals, but it created also "The Reign of Terror".

@screwtape
I skimmed your links. To be fair, it seems one of the many/few academic projects, about AI and collaborating agents, and so on.

They are hard to evaluate, because many of them sound logical and well designed, but IMHO only usage in real-world scenario can tell the truth about their effectiveness. For example, there are many types of logical theories that can be used.

I'm usually interested to these topics. I have also some project to finish, on these topics. Maybe some day...

@svetlyak40wt

@hayley index finger was created by nature for this specific scope! 🙂

@svetlyak40wt

I like the sensation of feeling at home whenever I use a system like Emacs or Guix, that is using Lisp. It is a sort of XML or YAML format, but with the additional power of macro, and a greater domain of applicability.

So I would create a minimalistic "shared-lisp" that one can use for configuring and customizing things.

Then every serious Lisp system like Common Lisp, Clojure, Racket, Guile, etc.. can easily convert this "shared-lisp" code into data and/or native Lisp code. And the rest of system will be implemented using some serious but opinionated Lisp environment.

So we should sell a simplified shared-lisp as a configuration language. An YAML on steroids. Then with time, Lisp can become common also on the "backend".

Additionaly: IMHO, the worst disservice done to Lisp, was the path towards not-so-much interactive Lisp environments. Common Lisp is a joy to use. Clojure and Guile acceptable, but not optimal. Racket not so much fun. We should empathize more the interactive aspect of programming.

@chrism summing up, it seems the worst of the two opposite "camps": the SJW are taking control of the community and the current leaders are under attack; current NixOS moderators and leaders are not able to manage/moderate the community in an effective way (or at least the SJW part of it).

I hope they find a clear and effective re-organization, because doing so: there will be a clear alignment of the community, with less distractions; if some group do not accept some choices, they can fork (in the positive sense of the word).

Regarding the CoC, IMHO the good enough approach is this https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.en.html

Regarding community management, I should study how other communities are organized. I suspect it is more difficult than coding... So maximum respect for the effort.

@grimalkina I will try to answer with an example/simplification: if I reply to a known follower, I can assume a lot of pre-existing context; if I reply to a new person, I will try to use a low-context answer like in this case; if I post new toots, I assume high-context, because my timeline is the context; if I want depth-seeking discussions then it is better a chat respect Mastodon, or for technical discussions a forum; if I recurrently posts about the same subject, there can be a depth-seeking discussion with known followers, but usually the initial toot is more in the informative and public style; Mastodon is good for news and updates, but for blogging about last-long themes, it is bad, because the content will be lost, and every discussion must start from the beginning.

I think that the main difference respect Twitter, it is that you are in control of your home-page timeline, so you can reduce the toxicity a lot.

@freemo he clearly studied a dating manual, but he confused self-confidence with confidence intervals 🙂

@freemo I agree with @realcaseyrollins the question was not stated clearly. I'm not even sure, it was a multiple choice, as it should be.

Personally, online I have no problems addressing someone also as "Mr. frog" if it likes it, but face to face I will have problems also addressing as "she" a male, dressed like a man and acting like a man, while I will have no problem addressing as "she" a trans acting like a woman.

There should be some minimal viable compatibility between reality and what someone pretend it is reality, otherwise it becomes an exercise of Neuro Linguistic Programming.

@freemo Probably the more honest point of view is: vote for Biden knowing that after a while he will be replaced by Kamala Harris.

By the way, USA democracy and democracy in the west is mainly a farce. It can be improved a lot.

@freemo

> But it seems 28% of straight women are still purely straight based on those numbers.

... or maybe what the study does not tell, it is that the remaining 28% of straight women are not aroused at all also from men :-)

@rmx