@amiloradovsky@functional.cafe I didn't mean to say mathematicians were ever behind their times, for all I know priesthood was all the rage back in the day, but they are not very good at appearing less religious even doing sports or gaming, with their memorizing digits, pi days, tau wars, "golden ratio is everywhere", "this wonderful little formula models all nature", in short - the general tendency to assume their own perception to be somehow linked to a mystical natural order, that's just waiting for them to discover it by thinking hard enough. It's all over the place in modern math "pop culture". Instead of making the science actually more accessible, their approach to popularization is the creation of an engaging mythos. There are exceptions and I might be exaggerating, but that's the sense I'm getting.

Didn't mean to argue against accessibility either, that pretty much the objective metric that programming is forcing all the theories into, just that I don't think there is an upper limit of useful/accessible abstractions, if we allow ourselves some mathematical heresy. Everyone can be happy... Except the mathematicians who cry every time they read Godel's incompleteness theorem... they will never be happy....