If everyone employed by Google vanished tomorrow the world would be immeasurably better off

@sir yes, we must all understand this fundamental truth. In snake oil industry, it's not the oil sellers or the oil buyers, it the bottle makers who are at fault. When Doodle company's snake oil has best bottles how can our actual medicine(tm) ever compete??

@namark in this analogy google employees are making the oil, not the bottles. Which I feel is pretty obvious

@sir @namark I say this sound like a flat statement. Saying "what you do don't define who you are" is pretty hypocrite at some extent because in the end, what you do become in a part of who you are so in the end. I think this phrase it is most used for people that want to shake off the responsibility of being part of evil deeds justifing that they didn't have a choice when that it is far from truth. There are always a choice but you have to decide the easy way or the right way and sadly in this age of moral and principles decadence; the easy way it is the common choice. I know this world is like this because like a old quote said "the bad people wins when the good ones don't do what it have to be done"

Shaking that statement away, I think most of you don't respect the position of @sir about preferring being right that in ease and comfortable but contributing a huge wrong in the web world. Think about the ww2 and how complacent German people and and tell if they weren't as evil as the Nazi itself and Hitler. (I put this as an example, not as a way to judge or condemn the German people. I am just stating a fact.. )

@Sajori

Not sure who you are quoting. I see the "what you do don't define who you are" was discussed but not in this thread. My point was that in snake oil industry the buyers and sellers are more at fault than the bottle makers, and retiring the bottle makers will not solve any problems.

@sir

@namark @sir well, get your statement and put it in the google terms google devs and users are the ones that are making the web going to the hell not google itself. Google is doing their evilness thanks to both of them and the user and devs use the complacent excuse that is not their fault that the web is on this state but then they complain on how worse is becoming all. Pretty stupid on my opinion. They want someone to fix their problem but they don't want to involve at all. I just going to see how bad the web will become and when the IE days return all over again but worse, I will laugh hard! People don't learn unless all goes to hell sadly!