transexuals here being like "only nice men get girls"

meanwhile this trump guy had several marriages and a ton of children, nobody ever doubting that hes a gigant dick

@igel which retard said this

@overflow i think it was the robo trannie

@igel @overflow do you realize how little that narrows it down

@tuxcrafting @igel @overflow theres the robot aesthetic and then theres it/its transexuals.

@georgia @tuxcrafting @overflow they also never have memorable usernames

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting some of them are really cool retro tech posters

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting yeah and they like to get into petty debates with me when I say something sexist. Eventhough we are the same sex

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting i mean white people call eachother racist too. anyway your sexism is mostly ironic from what ive seen.

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting depends on what you mean. I did grow up the nuclear family style and both my parents tell me it was the ideal way of growing up to this day

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting what bothers me is antifeminist trannies

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting I dont even know what feminism means to me, since women have all the same rights already. Everything else is social issues, and you cant "fix" people

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting as long as women are more likely to be killed by their intimate partner than anyone else women still need feminism.

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting that makes no sense. Women are weaker, therefore easier prey

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting male violence is okay cause women are weak eh?

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting violence isnt okay period. But men are jsut more violent due to how selection worked in the past for us. This is just nature

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting you can see this in most mammal species. Especially something like walruses who constantly select for the most aggressive, strongest males simply by beating teh shit out of weaker ones

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting killing of the mate is actually very uncommon in nature.

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting you are mixing individual fights with "why" a man usually would be the first to use violence to begin with. That makes no sense here. Humans forcing themselves into marriages for 50 years inst natural either. But they try to do it anyway. And then it ends in violence sometimes

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting im notr trying to normalize violence here, the men who hurt their wives are absolute weaklings on a personality level. But its simply a problem of the individual

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting I could start kicking cats for fun and nobody would fight for "cat rights" to prevent it happening again. Theyd simply jail me for being crazy

@igel @georgia @tuxcrafting animal activists exist

@overflow @georgia @tuxcrafting YOU ARE MISSING MY POINT SO FUCKING HARD OMG

@igel @georgia @tuxcrafting it’s not an individual problem it’s a societal issue women being abused is not a rare occurrence

@overflow @igel @tuxcrafting woah didnt know you were based

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting ok so when women were given the right to vote and work etc, we had institutions that made those laws for women to be able to do these things without going to jail etc.

Which institution are you talking about here? It makes no sense. Whats the orginization called? Illuminati?

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting men didnt just give women the right to vote lol. women fought for it diligently since the 1800s only a couple decades after the 1848 revolutions. and women wouldnt have had to be given the right if it wasnt denied in the first place.
>be men
>deny women basic rights for literally thousands of years
>women object
>after a protracted battle finally relent
>look at how great men are uwu

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting I didnt post that to debate history

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting then why did you you bring up history

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting as an example of what I see as "obvious inequality". The stuff you say about it in current society, makes no sense to me.

@igel @overflow @tuxcrafting i mean yeah there are next to no de jure sexist laws in the west but thats not all feminism is about. you cant just attribute cases of misogynistic bias and violence to one crazy. its a systemic issue.

@georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting I dont even know what systemic means really. Either way, most of this looks like crimes against humanity, not against "women"

@igel @georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting
It's the buzzword for feminists
It's the equivalent of saying SOCIETY but unlike gamers, who are truly oppressed, it's for women and gays and anyone on the modern list of things to beat the average person with
Usually systemic would mean a design flaw in the entire thing
Similar to fundamental but rather than being strictly in the bottom level, requiring changing the entire thing it's like 1 step above it
Like the Jews
You can take the jews out and have everything remain the same, but less shit

The idea is that because we are men, and men have been primarily the creators of society, we have unconsciously made it shit for women because we secretly want to make ourselves better than them, even though we gave them the same rights and now more than 'us'
It's never enough because the air conditioning is too cold or too many men are doing well in the IT industry or any other number of non-problems
Just whip out the systemic and 'muh women didn't get the vote in the past' and therefore gib more
Ebin, thanks past simps

@Lumeinshin @igel @georgia @overflow @tuxcrafting the point is that there's an infinite possible avenues to look for sexism. Find a new avenue. Check if the bias is against women. If it is, add it to a list. Gosh gallop with your list at moments of convenience to show how oppressed you are.

@Feddylain @Lumeinshin @georgia @igel @overflow @tuxcrafting Most modern violence against women in western countries is due to the simple BIOLOGICAL fact that men are more aggressive than women, leading to a higher prevalence towards violence, and tend to cohabitate with them. And it’s not like females can’t be violent - my grandma was violently abusive to both my grandfather and mother. Men tend to kill other men a lot too, but it’s not because society condones it somehow. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homicide_statistics_by_gender They seem to think violence against women will stop if all men protest it and say its wrong. It’s like thinking pit bulls will stop biting people if we just tell them its wrong.

@lucky @Feddylain @Lumeinshin @igel @overflow @tuxcrafting youre not wrong about it being rooted in biology, as is the culture supporting it (consider the euphemism "crime of passion"). i dont believe men and women as long as the categories exist in meaningful fashion will ever be equally violent. but i do think we can do more to mollify it, we arent savage beasts. at any rate when im speaking of feminism im taking a global perspective not talking about bougie white women

@georgia @Feddylain @Lumeinshin @igel @overflow @tuxcrafting One thing that could work is having the death penalty for infractions such as rape, pimping, murder, etc… That, if used diligently, would have an immediate reducing effect, especially if public mutilation/torture is used, and a long term evolutionary effect on reducing such behavior. Unfortunately women seem to be more vocally against the death penalty, even for abusers of women, then men from my anecdotal experience. Also, I think you are dead wrong with “we aren’t savage beasts”, otherwise I wouldn’t be suggesting domestication techniques, which have actually been ongoing for thousands of years.