@eb It's always so baffling to me that people made computers do extremely complicated math and logic to give wrong results in simple arithmetic. And they sell that as a product that's supposed to be a great technological leap forward

@Kiloku @eb If you use a hammer to eat soup you generally don't end up with good results.
If you want to sum numbers use the sum function, not one that predicts the next most probable token. I dislike this type of bashing of LLMs because it's trivial to dismiss (ok they can't do trivial maths, but they can write an entire piece of software for me). There are much more risky outputs that could be used as an example. Funky Excel formulas have always existed...

@nicolaromano @Kiloku @eb

They are writing complete software for you in the same way they sum numbers. Only that you are able to easily spot that the summation gives the wrong result.

@knud
What really baffles me, though, is that apparently MS lets Copilot "calculate" stuff instead of simply generate the Excel formula which is needed here.
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@reinouts @nicolaromano @Kiloku @eb

The explanation for the bafflement is: there is no revenue in LLMs, but there's an outrageous bubble of investment, particularly also by Microsoft. So LLMs get crammed into any product, useful or not, in order to eventually upsell you.

Instead you get an LLM that tries to guess relations in a table - and indeed one can be happy that the answer isn't "Wednesday". But that doesn't make it useful.

@knud
All that may be true, but still. They can and do already write code with LLMs. What is an Excel formula, if not code?
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@reinouts @knud @Kiloku @eb It takes effort and money to fine tune things and given this is probably just a move to keep some investors happy they can't be bothered? Agree with you it should be possible (also, I suspect it probably would work with a more carefully crafted prompt)

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