Olives @olives@qoto.org

Talking about one thing, then talking about another thing, then talking about yet another thing, and topping it off with language / nonsense reasoning that would censor it all.

One possible pattern worth mentioning.

By the way, I've seen one of these suspicious astroturf groups trying to argue that a minor joining a group with other school mates is "abused" by another one randomly deciding to post a bit of porn.

Strange fixation with porn. It also muddies the water, as you know, who knows if someone isn't using a very "clever" "definition" of exploitation.

I see the persecution complex in action again.

By the way, Ylva was at the G7 the other day. She boasted about that, so I'm sure we already knew that. And again, to spread her totalitarian ideology. #chatcontrol

Also, if you think this is just a crazy fringe view among crazy people online, consider that Ylva put that claim (unsourced) into her surveillance proposal.

The E.U. (or part of the Commission) seems to quite literally be run by a QAnon-like nutcase who is obsessed with technological surveillance. #chatcontrol

The worst rebuttal I've seen (on the cursed thing that is mainstream social media) appears to be... Well, they're surely not committing these crimes online, which misses the point that this claim is absurd and ridiculous.

When it comes to claims, the first question is, is this claim plausible? In this case, anyone with a working brain can look at this and say no, it is not.

When you see a few of the people pushing for #chatcontrol and they make bizarre claims like "one in five kids have been raped" which would make QAnon blush.

I've been saying this for some time now but we really have to ridicule this sort of nonsense.

Happy Human Rights Day. #privacy

Apparently, it's Human Rights Day, so I guess you should give free expression, privacy, and those other good things your love today.

It's worth noting that one of the Australian data breaches included "records of treatments" (which were of great interest to criminals), just like #ehds.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/nov/22/labor-mandatory-data-retention-laws-companies-hacks-cyber-security-strategy

Reinstating the "they're turning the frogs gay" guy doesn't strike me as the most important free expression issue to solve on Twitter.

I probably don't really need to explain this bit.

Both of these things are things where someone suspends well-established rights and principles in the hopes of fighting something bad.

Also, these measures only ever keep escalating, and no one questions whether they're particularly proportionate. There is also a very single-minded mindset about it.

Could probably think of more.

Those are the parallels that I can see there.

I think metadata is also worthy of protection though.

https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2023/12/06/end-to-end-encryption-protects-everyone-says-the-head-of-whatsapp The Whatsapp guy has a take on end-to-end encryption.

"Man accused of creating AI porn marketplace"

That makes it sound as if producing porn is a bad thing (which it isn't)...

For some extras, originally the phrase was an acronym, but I expanded it out for you (as I don't presume that everyone knows every bit of jargon), and added the quotes.

Also, the article attached to it is even more explicit and direct about that relationship language "among minors", and they're also pretty explicit that that is what they mean with the jargon.

A country where privacy / security experts were routinely brushed aside by people wanting to prop up some sort of Orwellian surveillance state.

Yup, I just copy-pasted a previous post (and switched out a couple of links and the name, one as I tried to further elaborate in the newer research data post).

The previous post was already fairly good, so no need to draft out a new one, and I don't really want Australian censorship practices to live rent free inside my head.