My three-month experiment using #Logseq as a daily driver -- and potential replacement for #Obsidian -- is over!

Here are my notes on which app ended up being best for this long form writer ... and why:

markmcelroy.com/choosing-betwe

@markmcelroy

> The interaction — my first unpleasant one on Mastodon — left me with a bad taste in my mouth. And while neither Logseq nor its developers are responsible for one person’s behavior … I confess this exchange influenced how I felt about Logseq.

To anyone reading this and wondering why OP doesn't link it, it's because it was him complaining about Logseq all the day without realizing has a different culture compared to Apple users:

We build our **tools**, you **consume** products.

Please just go back to Twitter and maybe never use FOSS again since you don't want to understand its culture nor respecting it but expecting consumer service and even complaining of having to report bugs against beta software (crazy!).

Ha, and if you were from the software industry you would know that 3 years are nothing and it is totally normal to be in beta after 3 years for complex applications like Logseq, it's just that you know about a proprietary product only when it is or very close to be released, ignoring how many years it took.

@post @markmcelroy but that’s the thing. Logseq is taking VC money so they will need to justify that by having a large group of users at some point, and they all won’t be as forgiving.

I’m willing to do that because I have already invested the decades in OSS but I wouldn’t recommend Logseq to a non-programmer today and that’s unfortunate.

@ebiester

Replying to the wrong comment? I can't see how it could be related to what I said.

@post It's related because you're talking about #foss culture with regards to Logseq, no?

Logseq will have more "apple" users than "foss" users if Logseq is successful. and Logseq is taking VC money, so they're going to be looking precisely for those "apple" users, as you derisively call them.

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@ebiester

Ha, yes. To be clear, I am criticizing OP because of their closed mind in previous interactions when it comes to appreciate FOSS: a different kind of "products" that need a different lens to be judged.

With most proprietary products you can only complain so people get used to that. With FOSS you have the chance to help.

OP complained all the time, made judgements even on the community like they were reviewing a product, didn't try to improve things, their interactions with the community are close to zero: they just sat down and enjoyed the trip.

I know not all Apple users are like that but don't tell me this is not what Apple itself expects its users to be.

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