Looks like #nixcon NA is sponsored by autonomous weapons, and it's explicitly ok'd by the #nixos foundation. Second incident in less than a week that makes me doubt the foundation really is even trying to represent what the community cares about, given the uproar from the community last year for the *same* situation at #nixcon EU.

@delroth Always remember that the NixOS Foundation has a large overlap with the for-profit Determinate Systems company. This conflict of interest depressingly goes unaddressed.

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@soupglasses @delroth you mean the same Determinate Systems that is pushing to stabilize a feature in Nix that has a ton of problems and they just happen to have developed a service around one of them an never addressed the small, insignificant fact that it's proprietary software?

@FedericoSchonborn @soupglasses fwiw I don't think there's any conspiracy there - the same people were pushing flakes before DetSys was a thing, and before they ran a paid service that relies on flakes.

The foundation also doesn't particularly have any power over this. The Nix development team does, and while it has the same high concentration of DetSys members, that's very easily explained by basic stuff like "the history of the project".

@delroth @FedericoSchonborn Yeah, it just reflects extremely poorly when DetSys are called out for hiring nixpkgs maintainers to effectively shift the energy away from the open documentation they were working on explicitly, to instead focus the energy on creating a "DetSys" flake documentation instead.

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If those maintainers were employed earlier by someone else (and their job was not maintaining nix/nixpkgs) then how does that change the time/energy/work situation?

(I agree that it might create a conflict of interest situation, but don't see how it shifts available work away.)

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