Realizing how many software engineering conversations pull probability estimates out of thin air is gonna radicalize me, a person who assumes that every probability estimate is OF COURSE based on empirical data and real statistics
"sorry in my world if you lie with math you have betrayed our deepest ethics my bad"
@grimalkina Sorry. Quite a lot of our university programs make us take 5 or 6 calculus courses and 0 statistics. We're not ever really taught how to even think about numbers. It's not great.
@jenniferplusplus SIX CALCULUS COURSES? For real??? That's just a weed out strategy
@jenniferplusplus but also like y'all deserve real world expertise. I don't think every developer in the world should need to learn to be a statistician. With all this money.... Let's get software orgs some gd human-centered statisticians...!
I'm afraid of having single statisticians in random places in an organization due to incentives: I don't know how to prevent them from being pushed into finding arguments for a preselected conclusion.
Hm~ I'm not sure what exactly workplace caring about something means (majority of employees caring about it? employees being rewarded for it? something else?). Roughly which (nonacademic?) workplaces would you expect to care about learning true things in the way you mean?
@robryk @jenniferplusplus I have a lottttttt of thoughts on this being the leader of a scientific dept in an applied setting and having been the person doing the statistics in very high pressure organizational situations quite a bit. It can be done it just requires building it in the right ways. Like committing to an open science model and shared standards and external ethical best practice. In the end I am assuming here that this is a workplace that does care about learning in some real way.