i am probably going to be killed on fedi for saying this but can we not use unclean rooms and lack of hygiene as a "look haha youre wrong and Bad and Obsessive" gotcha to demean your opponent regardless of who is it

as someone who struggles with this shit due to years of being abused, traumatized and simply heavily mentally ill, it only tells me you put me and many other people in the same lane as those fascists you want to demean

someone having an unclean room, "living in a basement", having unclean clothes and hygiene problems is not an argument and if you're gawking about social justice all the time you should follow your own praxis for once and not throw mentally ill people under the bus for your gotcha

like, really
grow the fuck up
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Also, using that as a gotcha or a reason to shame encourages keeping up appearances, which decreases levels of honesty. More insidiously, it can create positive feedback loops, when someone would benefit from others' help in reducing the amount of mess, but is too ashamed to ask for it.

@robryk i think you missed the point of my post, buddy
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