I know I talk alot of shit about trump, and I really dont like him much. But I must admit, he has done an amazing job handling the coronavirus so far.

Here are some of the things he has done that I am fairly pleased with:

1) Every year he has been in office he signed into law year-after-year budget increases for the CDC

2) He quickly barred incoming flights from both china and europe once cases became significant

3) he quickly issued a state of emergency and orderer the deployment of a US navy quarantine ship to help

4) His administration approved covering all costs for mandatory medical testing and quarinting for COVID-19 patients...

5) He issued a 1,000$ UBI to all american citizens to help alleviate financial problems.

He definitely did a better job than the last few presidents did when handling H1N1 and SARS.

@freemo
4 and 5 are claims he's made, not anything we have any evidence of.

@sda Evidence? He made a public statement and the CDC made a public statement that they would do both #4 and #5.. the outbreak is very new and these decisions were made within the last week. What "evidence" could you want? It takes time to go from an executive decision of that magnitude to actually having money in the bank.

So thats a rather moot point. But I will agree that until he actually executes and follows through it is a promise that is "pending".. obviously if he fails to follow through then we have every right to be upset. But considering the public way he announced these things and commited to them it would really be hurtful to his chances as president not to follow through.

@freemo

Wow. From "worst president ever" to "But I must admit, he has done an amazing job handling the coronavirus so far."

You're giving him credit for already having completed enumerated points.
I might give you #4, because it seems his administration has approved, even though they haven't yet followed through.

#5, I have to say, WTF???
He has issued no such checks, and when/if he does, I've seen statements indicating it'll be based upon income which is definitely not "universal."
Also he has said, "It'll be more than that. Much more."
Then I see rumors of $1200.
To me 20% isn't the "much more" hinted at by his vocal vehemence, particularly when the senate rumors just before that were for $1000 per month for two months.

I've been particularly unimpressed by his handling of COVID-19. He's on network teevee every single day, each day walking back what he said the previous day.

@sda The fact that I thought he was the worst president ever is also why I'm kinda surprised just how exemplary he seems to be responding to this.

@freemo
All I can guess is that you're not seeing the same things over there that we are here. Exemplary is the last word I'd use.

@sda If nothing else just look at the numbers. Americas infection rate per capita is much much lower than any country in europe...

Spin it however you like but the proof is in the pudding

@freemo
Yes "low infection rates" correlate very nicely with practically non-existent testing.

@sda How many tests total has the USA issued, how many total has europe issued? How do the numbers compare? Do you even know or are you just spitting?

@freemo
Since it's your assertion he;s doing so well, let's have those numbers.

@freemo
So, the number of tests all by itself means... what?

@sda Next question.. do you think we conducted more or less tests than european countries? Do you know? How about tests per capita? Or tests per suspected infected?

Do you have any hard numbers of any kind?

@freemo
I have no idea how many tests Netherlands have conducted.

@sda Jsut checked, the Netherlands conducted a total of only 6,000 tests as of friday.

@freemo
Ok, I give up. That proves that Trump is handling the situation well.

@sda The point wasnt to prove trump was handling the situation well. It is to prove your parroting propaganda without knowing hte actual facts. Its to show your opinion of how trump is handling the virus is not objective or honest.

@freemo
You initially said:
"...his actual response to covid has been exemplary..."

Then down the road you say, "The point wasnt to prove trump was handling the situation well. "

If the point was first to say he's exemplary, then the point wasn't to prove Trump is handling it well, then I'm just completly lost in this thread. To me they both mean the same thing.

@sda yes.. because we had discussed a side point, specifically why the USA had so few cases and if the usa was testing effectively, we were addressing that side point.

You tried to debunk my point with a counter point, which i then debunked...

Not sure why we are having this meta discussion you were there, did you really have that much trouble following along. Seems straight forward to me why it was stated.

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@freemo
Apparently your definition of "debunked" is different than mine, but you may recall I've already conceded.
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"Ok, I give up. That proves that Trump is handling the situation well."
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Beat the dead horse if you wish.

@sda That sounded sarcastic, glad to hear it isnt. But I still dont think you have the proper information to decide either way based on our earlier statements.

I'm fine dropping the convo though.

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