@cjd I agree with the first statement
regarding the second, the only scatter plot I've seen is the vaccination/fatality rate of German states and it has no clear correlation
@skells
Oh, that's interesting. Do pass it along if you find it.
Page 3, vaccination vs ALL CAUSE mortality
they actually claim a positive correlation but you can find a correlation on any random scatter plot
i think the key question is how covid deaths are being reported
@skells
Can you throw it up somewhere? they're giving me a 403 (French residential IP address.. o_O)
@cjd hah, interesting
https://reitschuster.de/post/bundeslaender-mit-hoher-impfquote-haben-hoechste-uebersterblichkeit/
this is the source, they're focussing on the positive correlation but, as I say, don't think the conclusion is robust
@skells
Now it's a fact that doctors and researchers have been intimidated into silence, and when that's the way you make consensus - whatever you claim you're doing, it's not science.
But this graph is a Rorschach ink-blotch.
@cjd I'm with you all the way brother
@skells
So the 3x makes sense from the perspective of the older numbers: France 1% death rate, Romania 3% death rate. That 3x is just very inflated.
Now you can draw a conclusion that higher vaccination rate correlates with to fewer deaths, but one needs to be aware that this is in some ways a Dataset of One so should be taken with a big grain of salt.