@mrman Gebus is a good god mostly, but he's the allowed god, not one true god, that's where Christianity seems to get all judgemental and the fundamental consents fall apart with the people who practices it. I end up going back to the same video for concise explanation about Christian hypocrisy, and denial of all gods (Nordic, Eastern, Native American, all gods denied) because of the "one true god" nonsense that's ... Just.. where...

Gebus is a good god, not a bad one to follow, but he's the one allowed to be, not the only one, and back to the (getting sick of this one, I need to find new ones) video: https://youtu.be/mj_tYOdQbFU
@mrman It's like studying politics. If you choose to only listen to one version, you don't have much understanding of the whole point. You have to listen to what each party is saying, what they agree on, what they don't, what makes sense, and then figure out which ones are most full of shit. It's like saying "I'm sure I'm right about EVERYTHING political" after only ever studying Trumps speaches. Just, not the whole picture.
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I'll take it another step further, for argument sake (meaning, discourse to revile truth, not a quarrel)

Mass humanity has been sold lies for millennia, and how the truth has not been relieved is a testament to the corruption of man.

The lie is that the efficiency of scale is always true, and incorrectly applied to politics, religion, even when it's Gore Industries proved it is even stupid in some cases for economic factors with corporations.

Scale, growth of an organization, causes it to include more and more people as "middlemen."

While one bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch, one poison apple can kill all that eat the pie.

The larger any structure grows, be it political or religious, the chance of corruption does not only scale with the growth, it increases exponentially with the growth, giving much higher probability of a "poison pill" among it's structure.

Tribalism is the answer, not artificial constructs of power with closed views focused on singular goals. Tribalism is how, NATURALLY, man is willing at an individual level to choose which tribe he wants, and tribes tend to fragment when possible upon disagreement rather than cause excessive harm to their own groups minority positions.

But, I've also invented my own version of "tribalism" there, so I'm totally full of shit on all of it, and seeing things how I want to, and I'm a single person who's been very "programmed" by my experiences in the world, and anyone that just "takes my word for it" is a complete fucking idiot, and needs to figure it out themself.
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The natural limits about the efficiency of scale of an organization cap it around 70-150 people. To believe 300 million people can be served by a single organization structure is insanity, IMHO:

https://qz.com/846530/something-weird-happens-to-companies-when-they-hit-150-people/
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@Coyote @mrman religions aren't simply organisations though, the Catholic church is obviously a vast one but you can be the only Christian locally and still be a Christian

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@skells I totally agree. I don't have a problem with Christians, some 'very fine people' there. I have a problem with consolidation of power over people, in any human form. I was raised Catholic, but somewhere in my (very light) readings of Buddism in the 90s, I kinda went, WTF, it's the principles, not the structures, that are important, why does everyone seem to have that backwards?

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I present, a mildly perceptive, not entirely inaccurate, critique of my positions by someone I feel may be lacking some significant logic skills. Which, prevented me from addressing the tangential point at the time, because it was a red herring tactic when his core points were falling apart. But even idiots get it right once in a while, at least d) applies, b) doesn't, but I can see an argument for the others with some large stretches of the imagination (bottom line, I'm jaded, anyone who thinks they aren't is suffering disillusions of grandeur):

https://shitposter.club/notice/AHdCA7FmyikO1zGnOy

@Coyote @mrman this guy just looks like he's projecting tbh

@skells @mrman Whenever one gets lost in the weeds, you have to Fermi-level up your perspective. Some are incapable, some just haven't learned yet. Don't know him well enough to judge.
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