How do you make money?

1. Create product.
2. Market product as a vice.
3. ???
4. Profit.
@sim I've been suspicious of "self care" as part of that whole scheme for a long time
@harblinger Now you mention it, I hadn't thought about that either. But some products in the self-care range can be seen in this way. Like convincing people that they smell bad and to not smell bad they need deodorant. Like natural smells are bad for us.
@sim yeah, I don't really mean the hygeine products, it's more of the self-care meme that's been spreading around:

"You deserve it! Have an ice cream and a spa day, it's self care~"

nothing specific, just hitting the vice-marketing scheme from the other end, instead of marketing a product as a vice, it's a vice that's marketed as ~good for you~
@harblinger Ha. Now you mention this, I have fallen into that mindset. To treat myself to something when I've done something. But like you say, it is marketing a vice as good for us. Instead, I feel like I've maybe been enabling some bad habits that I need to learn how to overcome. Even if I do limit it each day.

I think we do need to acknowledge when something is a vice for us and to not blur the lines there. Marketing really can be sneaky in this blurring.
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@sim @harblinger is it a virtue to go out drinking with friends?

or is it a vice?

@skells @harblinger I would probably say that drinking alcohol is a vice, but I would like to say that bonding with friends is a virtue, or at least not a vice. Then again, friends can get you into trouble if you have bad friends so maybe it depends on whether you have good or bad friends. Maybe Aristotle will have something to say about this, I'm sure they did this back in the day.

@sim @harblinger shitposting on fedi is almost certainly a vice

@skells @sim @harblinger friends ive made here have directly led to massive self improvement for me, to prove your point even further

@vriska @skells @sim @harblinger i keep saying this but they all say "no you did it by yourself" smh

@cell @harblinger @skells @sim no one has ever done anything by themselves thats how the world works baby

@vriska @cell @harblinger @sim this is my point really, it's very difficult at the time to really judge what is virtue and vice once you get outside the library, barring the really egregious shit

@skells @harblinger I think so too, social media can be addictive. I still haven't found a happy medium for it. Is there even such a thing?

@sim @harblinger I tried reducing my time down to short spells but then you get into a conversation....

@skells @harblinger Yeah. Even conversations can be addictive like that when you think about it. Whether it is a virtue or vice, I cannot say. I wonder if conversation will be something included too.

@sim @harblinger I really think the definition of virtue and vices are problematic, however the idea of going against your preferences is solid advice.

Reducing your exposure to pleasure, austerity, and increasing your exposure to pain, courage, are universal virtues when not pushed to extremes (or if you push it to extremes only do it for short spell)

at the end of the day, there's no replacement for self-awareness and good instincts, even if they have to be developed by experience (i.e. trial and error)

@skells @harblinger Yeah, then again there is another saying that goes like don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. But I would also add, don't let the good enough make you complacent. Don't convince yourself that you have to stay where you are for the rest of your life in situations because you can't do better. A lot of things are in transition, including your current state.

I'd also add common sense to that, something often missing now. As if it is offensive to have and use.
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