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@11112011 is argue the reverse, schools are indoctrination facilities in their current form, socialisation is one of their few redeeming features

my school was pretty good tjo, just learnt to fight, banter and disrespect authority

@11112011 For we let our young men and women go out unarmed, in a day when armour
was never so necessary. By teaching them all to read, we have left them at
the mercy of the printed word. By the invention of the film and the radio, we
have made certain that no aversion to reading shall secure them from the
incessant battery of words, words, words. They do not know what the words mean; they do not know how to ward them off or blunt their edge or fling them back; they are a prey to words in their emotions instead of being the
masters of them in their intellects. We who were scandalized in 1940 when
men were sent to fight armoured tanks with rifles, are not scandalised when
young men and women are sent into the world to fight massed propaganda
with a smattering of “subjects”; and when whole classes and whole nations
become hypnotised by the arts of the spellbinder, we have the impudence
to be astonished. We dole out lip-service to the importance of education—
lip-service and, just occasionally, a little grant of money; we postpone the
school leaving-age, and plan to build bigger and better schools; the teachers
slave conscientiously in and out of school-hours, till responsibility becomes a burden and a nightmare; and yet, as I believe, all this devoted effort is largely
frustrated, because we have lost the tools of learning, and in their absence
can only make a botched and piecemeal job of it.

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@11112011 @ins0mniak Although Ottoman madrasas had a number of different branches of study, such as calligraphic sciences, oral sciences, and intellectual sciences, they primarily served the function of an Islamic centre for spiritual learning. Often mentioned by critics that madrasas did not include a variety of natural sciences during the time of the Ottoman Empire, madrasas included curriculums that included a wide range of natural sciences. There were many well-known Muslim scholars, mathematicians, and scientists that all worked to teach high-ranking families and children of the sciences.[139] it known that "The goal of all knowledge and in particular, of the spiritual sciences is knowledge of God."[14] Religion, for the most part, determines the significance and importance of each science. As İnalcık mentions: "Those which aid religion are good and sciences like astrology are bad."[14]

@11112011 @ins0mniak same here, not sure I'd want to send my kids to public school in 2030 or whenever

@11112011 @ins0mniak jebbos madrasas often teach the trivium, classical curriculum (as in the tradition of education informed by ancient Rome and Greece -> middle ages -> British empire)

current systems have much more in common with Prussian education, to train obedient employees

@11112011 @ins0mniak it's a challenge but not insoluble. end of the day parents making their own decisions is better than the state doing it

@11112011 @ins0mniak and if I was to homeschool my kids I'd probably do it with some local like minded people, take them on lots of climbing trips etc. instead of them taking bullshit exam focussed classes

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