1st Group Read starting Tomorrow 30th of September 2022
What we are reading is Thucydides - The War of the Peloponnesians and the Athenians.
Parts 1 and 2 of Thucydides - The War of the Peloponnesians and the Athenians have been selected after very extensive and impartial polling (participants are encouraged to continue beyond the first two parts p. 160 of the book should they so will it).
About the Author:
Thucydides had served as a general in the Athenian army but after being blamed for a defeat he was exiled from the city. His status as an exile from Athens allowed him to travel freely among the Peloponnesians giving him a view of the war from the perspective of both sides.
His military experience coupled with deep social and political insights allowed him to create this classic in geopolitics about the two world powers of the time slowly being dragged in war. Many parallels can be drawn between these events and the current state of the world today. We have a defensive alliance slowly being turned into an empire led by the strongest member, a democratic faction with the leading power meddling in the member states' internal politics versus an oligarchic one ensuring that their allies are ruled by oligarchies, a clash between a naval and land power, very slow increase in hostilities through proxy wars all over Greece and many more.
Historical accounts had been written before, yet Thucydides was the first to write a consciously "scientific" history - one which sought not just to tell an engaging story, but to understand the causes, motivations and consequences of the events. One thing is certain Thucydides Histories is as much relevant today as it was when it was first written.
Short Introduction to the book:
After fighting off successive Persian invasions, Hellas stood triumphant and sovereign. Front and center stood the twin city states of Athens - decimated in the war with Persia but now ascendent in their dominance of the sea and trade - and Sparta - a hardened military elite ruling their Helots with savage zeal.
Yet unease was not far away, as Athens began to convert the Anti-Persian Delian League into a de facto Athenian Empire, much to the chagrin and fear of Sparta.
The Peloponnesian War was the culmination of that tension and the war between Athens and Sparta has become the prototype of the Thucydides trap - the implicit threat of another superpower and the temptation to seize the initiative in a war for dominance.
This is the war that Thucydides sought to describe.
In 10 days from now, Thursday the 10th of October, we shall have a cozy discussion (hell)thread upon the ideas presented by Thucydides.
Both members of Free Fedi Book Club and outsiders will be welcome to participate and discuss.
To ensure there will be a good and healthy discussion I made a rule, feel free to give me a feedback in this thread. We can change it if people think it prevents people from having good discussion.
1. Try to stay on subject.
2. Respect each other.
3. Don't post unrelated pics such as memes or lewd.
4. Don't let emotions control yourself.
The theme for the discussion will be the parallel between the conflict between Russia and the United States on our time. To make the discussion more fun I will make some questions regarding this which you guys can discuss in the future.
Thank you for your attention.
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Thucydides, Jeremy Mynott - The War of the Peloponnesians and the Athenians-Cambridge University Press (2013).pdf