@Demo318 @dulcet @sampo People have different material interests. Sometimes those interests are diametrically opposed.
In my case, interests like "being able to retire one day" and "having a livable climate in the future" are opposed by powerful individuals. If those individuals aren't willing to step aside and surrender, I'm not really sure how violence can be avoided.
@dulcet @sampo @Demo318 not absolute surrender, but without the plausible threat of violence noone is going to take your ideas seriously enough to open a discussion. It's no coincidence that workplace rights and conditions in the West began to collapse the moment it became clear that Eastern bloc socialism was on its way out, and there was no longer a realistic threat of violent revolution.
