I had a random thought at 5am this morning:

What would happen if you moved the ability to sponsor visas from companies to unions and removed caps? If a company wants someone to move to a country for work, they have to convince the union that it won’t depress wages but will increase the number of people working in the field (which strengthens the union). If your company has a reputation for treating workers badly, the union won’t let you have any work visas. If you hire an immigrant and treat them badly, the visa isn’t tied to you and the union can help them move to another employer.

@david_chisnall

> If you hire an immigrant and treat them badly, the visa isn’t tied to you

I think this statement is not so simple. A lot of people can't just move to preferred country to live and work because they must pay for visa, pay a lot of money for X years of medical insurance, etc.

In that case, getting the visa and support from the company which will treat me badly — may be an option, because "bad" for european PoV may mean "what a healthy working environment!" for foreigner PoV

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@evgandr @david_chisnall what if Western "powers" stopped trashing the rest of the world for resources and people could continue their culture in their homeland? I feel immigration is an ill-effect on all sides and not a desirable outcome for people from any culture.

rupol 

@tetrislife @david_chisnall Uh, I'm from Russia and my country wasn't "trashed by the West" — the ruling class were traded our cultural heritage from museums to buy equip for military industry (in 1920-1930). And now they trade resources to become richer and to buy modern anti-riot police equip, IT-tech from Nokia and others to censorship Internet, etc

So, the emigration is one possible and healthy choice here for people who don't want to continue the "local culture" of "rule of the might"

rupol 

@evgandr
Losing culture to anybody is bad. Emigration doesn't sound like a "choice", more like the only option after culture's demise. This might be, what, 10% of people?

The other 90% are in the process of getting there, with outside "help".

re: rupol 

@tetrislife Can't speak about the world, but speaking about Russian culture — we lost it after revolution (1917). Communists purge that part of society, which preservs the "old" culture. Only the artifacts survived to preserve the myth about "big country with a big history".

The new "Soviet culture" were obviously lost too after the collapse of the USSR because usual people didn't like it at all, only the nostalgic "artifacts".

So, for us there is a "choice" and so bad at all🤷‍♂️

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