this election was stolen before it even took place. that's the effect of illegal sanctions imposed on a country to force a regime change. even if the (distorted) popular vote was actually in favor of González (that's a big if, considering that US forces supported him), it was just as stolen as the laughable previous attempt to make Juán Guaidó president without a mandate. whoever gets US support there is automatically tainted.

that said, to the best of my knowledge, the electoral commission presented all the election documentation to a national court, and the court found the election results to be the official ones. of course those willing to discredit the Venezuelan institutions and believe in US propaganda will believe whatever they wish to believe, while those who dare disbelieve US propaganda in Latin America out of personal experience may come to very different conclusions.

to me, the fact that Machado got the Nobel Peace Prize does a lot more to discredit the Nobel Peace Prize (not that it had a lot of credit left, after previously awarding warmongers) than it does to elevate Machado. it's imperial influence and propaganda rotting it all to the core. now, you believe whatever you're gullible enough to believe.
Trump's popularity fell a lot after the election

I also know there have long been campaigns to discredit Venezuelan elections. AFAIK their courts found Maduro to be the winner, but US evidently hasn't given up its plan to replace him. TBH, I trust Venezuelan electoral courts a lot more than I do US regime change propaganda. now, if you have any evidence that isn't tainted, I'd be happy to review it.
there are presumably a number of countries whose inhabitants would be immediately happier and relieved in case some aliens came about and abducted their chief of state

if I were to make a list today, I'd place the US way ahead of Venezuela

@adbenitez as the local says in "Blood Diamond" ... "I hope they don't discover oil here; then, we are really doomed"

@lorry Or he believes his electoral base does not know the difference.

I certainly hope the EU can put the same sanctions on the US for attacking Venezuela as they did on Russia for attacking Ukraine. This is indefensible.

@lxo really unfortunate, the threat that was always there escalated.

Cursed English 

English words I am mad about, part 3719: Bureaucracy. I can never for the life of me remember how to spell this dirty fucker. It's so easy in German: Bürokratie. I mean come on, a word that's actually easier to spell in German? That's not how this was supposed to work out!

@andrewrk is the north star FSF-/GNU-like espousal of "all software should be free"? How would even that, let alone something less than that, prevent inflicting of carelessly-written software on users?

@jimbob @andrewrk @jarekrozanski
I mean people who are like you but with less of a moral spine.

I don't think you get to take that advice and hope they don't.

I think you play the META and expect everyone else to also play the META.

@andrewrk perhaps "Ask for forgiveness, not permission" attitude did do more bad than good afterall.

@chris as a user of multiple fediverse protocol variants, have you felt one of their servers could be enough for all-purpose use? Or maybe some all-purpose app to simulate it client-side?

@soatok what I don't get is why you take this opportunity to attack #pgp in general, like taking the opportunity to push for some agenda, the site is called gpg.fail, GPG not PGP, most of the problems are related to gpg or some C code implementation bug, or using gpg and others in the command line and getting tricked by some ansi printing in the terminal, how that translates to "let's kill pgp"? ex. none of the listed problems affect #DeltaChat at all

(I was present in the gpg.fail talk btw)

It's true: the more technical background and pre-conceptions you have, the more more likely you run into trouble with #deltachat 😂
Don't think so much! 😉

it's called crowd computing because of the number of companies watching what you're doing on the net

@bentsukun it is great to hear that `gst` is in usable shape, because development seems quiet (compared to the Paolo Bonzini days).

@mscheffel @dabertime jokes apart, I have heard it likened to shaking dust out of a rug - dust coming out (struggle to concentrate) is a prerequisite for reaching further.

@fraggle probably reference-counting, if you want to distinguish from typical garbage collection
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