@wronglang
Got it. Still ...

People seem to be using Proxmox for separate services nowadays. Personally, I'd want to Erlang all the things on 1 instance, but that is just a thought.
@defuneste

@andrewrk where's the "unsafe" keyword in Fil-C, how am I supposed to get anything done?

Is DeltaChat's WebXDC app store the offline-first app sandbox we have always needed? It will probably even have its own network effect of "no other chat app supports communication between other apps".

I was closing browser tabs and kept hitting Ctrl W to do it. As the last one closed I realized that it contained an unsaved form. Oh no! I restarted Firefox and it came up with an empty tab. But the data wasn't lost because I could use Ctrl Shift T to bring up the last closed Tab and there was my form with all the data in it. Amazing. And I don't have a form saving extension installed.

@restorante
And Squeak is a smaller download than Emacs. But I never could use as marketed. Specifically, I failed to understand how to remove the seconds display from the digital clock widget.
@chemoelectric @toomanysecrets

@deshipu
Good point. I was just thinking that serving gibberish URLs on bot request with a generic copyright-respective-authors disclaimer would be totally fine. Of course, it would be better to use material copyrighted by corporates!
@alex

So… taking a text under copyright and using it to populate a simple Markov Chain and using that to generate gibberish is … infringing copyright? Ethically dubious? None of the above? Asking for a friend.

@arclight
I wonder if exception handlers (and loggers) can be "passed in" to routines (low-level dependency injection). Noisy scaffolding, but would it avoid the performance impact? If yes, some language support would be worth it (maybe, aspect-oriented programming is that).
@amoroso @nedbat

@jwz @glyph if only people had responded to RMS's cry for help at the time...

@erkin not the OP, but I read fluff followed by a cop-out, so ...

@jkakar hasn't there forever been a book about the thinking behind Emacs-like editors, "The Craft of Text Editing" by Craig Finseth?

@glyph I wouldn't say we're intensely adversarial, but we certainly refused to remove packages that are for use with nonfree software.

@glyph "get out of Emacs" - why on earth would any sane person ever want to do such a thing?

@wegegeld @jwz In defense of this planet's youth I would like to point out, that this planet's major fuckups are designed, engineered and executed by #MyGeneration especially those that identify as "old white men". I have no problem to concede that the young ones can be annoying as hell but they are not the ones in charge.

I just love how we've now spent far more computational resources on generating funny pictures and spitting out flawed code than was ever spent on running formal verfication and exhaustive testing on important software because it was thought to be "too expensive".

All these "simple" protocol definitions that aren't "simple" but are instead "underdefined to an extent that prevents effective interop in anything but the simplest of cases". If a protocol spec (or language spec!) doesn't look exasperatingly pedantic, the kind of thing a monomaniac would write, then it's probably shitty

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