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@SecondJon I shouldn't be surprised by this lack of intellectual integrity, but I am still disappointed.

Yes, Trump failed to roll back all of the policies Obama put into place over his eight years in office in a way that led to an immediate and complete reversal of the moderate gains against emissions Obama was able to reach. And yes, year over year emissions, when comparing economic recovery years against years we did not recover as much from the recession, did increase. However, in the last few years of his term, when the economy was growing the most, his policies had been implemented such that emissions declined despite the growth.

Trump doesn't have the excuse of economic growth for the change in numbers. His economy is growing slower than it was under Obama's last couple years. It is instead polices that are to blame for the change in direction.

Proving me wrong is easy, yet impossible - prove that removing regulations restricting emissions leads to fewer emissions.

Intellectually dishonest arguments and flat out lies are not "pushing back on [bias]." It's propaganda. Facts matter. Factually based analysis matters. Your lies and obfuscation don't belong in the public discourse and are appropriately ignored by honest media organizations.

@Moonirises Etsy and ebay maybe? I've not tried but I see a lot of art sales there. Maybe try promo-ing via pintrest too, depending on your art.

@hasmis
The link explains better than I can. The sensors have only been in the ocean for the past 30-some-odd years, not all of planetary history. Yes, for this brief window of human monitoring, the temperature has not exceeded 30C, bit there is no scientific or physical law that requires that; it's the result of a complex set of other factors, all of which are changing.

@hasmis not "cannot." Sea surface temps can, and have exceeded 30c. Simply put, it's a matter of how hot the troposphere gets:

https://skepticalscience.com/tropical-terhmostat-limits-sea-surface-temperature-to-30C.htm

@SecondJon I was inaccurate when I said emissions are going up; they're trending back up. During the last couple years of the Obama administration, emissions were being reduced ~2% per year. In 2017, emissions went down by less than 1% (removing the shift from coal to natural gas, which even the Trump admin will not stop, emissions went up where they were going down under Obama). The US may still meet Paris agreement goals, but that will be because of states like California stepping up despite the federal government trying to increase emissions.

And yes, it is entirely appropriate to place blame on a party that is taking actions to create an outcome when that outcome starts happening. The effect of burning more fossil fuels is more C02 emissions. Making it easier and cheaper to burn fossil fuels, or to sell products that require the burning of more fossil fuels cause more fossil fuels to be burned.

https://rhg.com/research/final-us-emissions-numbers-for-2017/
https://www.epa.gov/statelocalenergy/state-co2-emissions-fossil-fuel-combustion-1990-2016

@SecondJon
No media bias, they're just not repeating things that have been repeatedly reported for months. Trump cut coal plant emmission regulations, CAFE standards, and dozens of other EPA regulations. This has led to an increase in US emissions.

These are regulations implemented by the EPA because that's what the laws passed by Congress require. Congress gave the Executive the power to color in the lines of the laws it's passed because the regulators are best able to manage the changing needs of these laws. Congressional legislation takes months if not years to make it through both bodies while regulations like this need to be able to reacto to the environmental needs on a timeline of months.

The question should not be why is this something the Executive can do but why such a blatantly corrupt Executive is allowed to continue to rape and steal from our country and our future like this.

@hasmis completely false central claim and completely misleading graphs

1) Global temperatures have dozens of inputs, CO2 levels are just one. It's not hard (although you failed) to cherry pick a couple years where one of those other effects overwhelmed the effects of CO2 to try and give a different picture than the full data set shows.

2) Your CO2 chart show as barely 2% 3 year increase in CO2 levels - about 395ppm to less than 405ppm

3) 2014 average anomaly was 0.27C-0.29; 2017 was 0.38C-0.48

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/2014-state-climate-earth%E2%80%99s-surface-temperature
https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/state-climate-highlights/2017

"The secret to happiness: low expectations"

@sky
Only just started testing it out, but mastalab is working well for me on phone. Not sure if it does multi-column on a tablet or not though

@JGibsonDem They do this in Missouri after every election. Fortunately, on Right to Work, there's almost no chance of it passing; they had to put it on the ballot because they didn't have enough votes in the legislature to do it there.