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@ianbetteridge

…assuming what says is true, of course — which is impossible to verify because all they do is proprietary, closed and opaque…

@tripu @ianbetteridge

I can think of some instances where Apple have messed up such as allowing invasive advertising but on privacy they have a pretty good track record as far as I know.

Proprietary often, closed and opaque sometimes but the products and services are best in class too often for this consumer to want to write off. I’m a long way from wanting one of the headsets mind, just don’t tempt me with a 15inch iPad or a decent optical zoom on an iPhone!

@ngo

is great at secrecy. They manage to work on major changes and whole lines of products for years, involving thousands of people, without nobody noticing.

Of course they could be doing all sorts of things with all kinds of data and we wouldn't know about that.

Given all precedents in the industry, we should err on the side of scepticism.

/cc @ianbetteridge

@tripu @ianbetteridge

Too much conspiracy theory going on here for me. I’m happy to stick with Innocent ‘till proven guilty which is why I’m happy here with Mastodon but choose to avoid Twitter, happy with Apple but avoid Meta and treat Google with caution.

Great at new product secrecy is one thing not to be confused with deliberate obfuscation or dishonesty.

@ngo

No conspiracy needed: just human nature, economic incentives, and poor regulatory oversight.

No company has an incentive to respect ; only to _make everyone believe_ that it respects privacy, and to avoid being caught.

You presume innocence just because ~~is~~ seems an outlier among big tech. What is more likely: that Apple alone is _unique_ in its strategy and goals, or that it's better at doing fishy things surreptitiously? I say we can't be reasonably confident it's the former.

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@tripu @ianbetteridge

I certainly agree as far as economic incentive and poor regulatory oversight. I’d also question the nature of Musk and Zuckerberg too.

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