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There is massive double speak to left, and .

Please ask yourself this question.

did the workers control the means of production? in ? in ?

no? it wasnt communism... please

do not support and do not submit to aristocracy rhetoric that breaks the language of commoners ability to communicate important ideas.

Call it what it is or

You and I agree on many points so we are friends.

I am a proper liberal in the philosophical meaning not the corrupted economic one we see today.

are not liberal unless you accept doublethink and newspeak.

They are corporatism and have been corrupted just as well as the . Both parties in the US and are corrupted oligarch with different words and theatrics is all.

Do not alienate your brothers using their doublespeak and rhetoric call it what it is.

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