I feel scammed by @PINE64
I was promised Free and Open-source and i can't even get the fucking KiCAD files or reverse-engineer the PCBs without breaking their copyright.
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I agree its a muddy definition but it was definitely not RYF hardware. I was aware of this before I bought a pine phone, The librem5 which does produce kicad is also not RYF hardware cause the GSM chip.
I wonder if there is a blob for that to in the librem? I am guessing no. not sure about requiring blobs in the pine phone.
@twotwenty @PINE64 also about @purism would be great if they were more transparent about when they will reach the development cost to release the KiCAD files as i could buy the phone now and be comfortable about getting the gerber files at set date.
But i assume that they are also a scam i wrote about it in https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-discuss/2022-01/msg00059.html if you are curious
.. in short they should be way past the development cost (calculations: https://git.dotya.ml/kreyren/kreyren/issues/13) assuming that they are doing 4th batch of at least 1000 devices sold for 1 199 USD
They have already released the kicads for the dev board which is roughly 90% of the board.
I believe the are honest in their intent but a mix of busy/under staffed and lazy. most people harass them about timing and cynical about each forward model being vapor yet they do come out eventually.
right from the original laptop every rev after, the librem itself I have seen numerous article accusing them of vapor yet they eventually came out with all of it.
I do not know their internal projects and how much technical support positions and non engineering types those 40 make up. I assume some are clerical etc.
They may have flaws but there are few companies that aim to be as much as they are.
I was really happy that they didnt take the position against RMS, I know one of their employees was pushing to take one against him thats in a matrix channel I chat in.
@twotwenty @PINE64 @purism Like in general if someone does something that the person don't agree with then i will fully support that person in expressing their opinion in civilized manner.
But other then RMS's statements in relation to hardware development i am really not aware of anything that i would be against and deemed worthy of witch hunt over..
I am much more concerned about people such as Molly de Blanc as from https://rms-open-letter.github.io she's just an abusive asshole that wants to be in a center of an attention and i really hate that torproject and FSFE made such a lack of judgement and joined her side in that whole case.
@twotwenty @PINE64 @purism
last time i checked turning the dev board into a phone PCB would be a lot of effort, but possible, would say it being more like 60%
I don't believe that they are honest otherwise they would be more transparent about it and they are really not under-staffer as they have 40 employees [https://puri.sm/about/team]
> right from the original laptop every rev after, the librem itself I have seen numerous article accusing them of vapor yet they eventually came out with all of it.
I think that they can justify that "they didn't yet paid the development cost" by continuously hiring new people and then claiming that the production cost increased + they are not transparent so it's impossible to prove without involving the law.